Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MSA Capital


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Jenny Zeng. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

MSA Capital

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This appears to be undisclosed paid editing (in mainspace) in violation of our Terms of Use, but for reasons I can't understand that is not considered grounds for deletion.

So, is the company notable by our standards? It gets 62 hits on GNews, most of which appear to actually be about it; hits for "MSA Capital" on GBooks all appear to relate to Management Science America, to a mine in Mexico or to a consultancy in Santa Fe. I do not see anywhere any substantial in-depth coverage of this company in independent reliable sources. Sourcing in the article is entirely to press-releases and similar promotional materials relating to the day-to-day conduct of its routine business. Justlettersandnumbers ([[User
 * I don't know what kind of confusion you encounter when you do research but I checked your URL posted above, and I have no idea how you do research. Why would you check Google News as a destination? Why wouldn't you use a simple Google search where you find at least 15-20 articles of pertinent substance (of 86 links)? Where are you getting Management Science America from? This deletion attempt appears to be irresponsible and a careless lack of effort and possibly skill by people that could otherwise improve the article, with a modicum of some effort. I know research is time consuming, and the article would need to be flushed out more to be effective and more useful. And I am not going to research it, but there are several interviews published in major news venues (out of the 86 links listed), about the activities of this firm. https://www.google.com/search?as_q=&as_epq=MSA+Capital&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=  I want to add I have no affiliation with this article at all, I am just stunned by the continuing carelessness and propensity to delete, while articles of pure trivia and gossip continue to be published. Is it a predisposition to delete things? Stevenmitchell (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 09:34, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:43, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Jenny Zeng. Non-notable company with a notable founder, who was named one of the top 30 businesswomen of China. -Zanhe (talk) 19:31, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 11:48, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've no objection to creation of a redirect, as proposed by, after deletion. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Stevenmitchell (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC) This article is simply nominated for deletion by people that appear to be unable, for whatever reasons, to research the contents of the article in question. There doesn't seem to another reason and I don't want to speculate on possible motivations for its call for deletion or the failure by editors to make an effort.Stevenmitchell (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment None of what you have said is a good reason to keep. If you can point to references that meet the criteria for establishing notability, please do so.  HighKing++ 18:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect as per Zanhe above. None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP  HighKing++ 18:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)


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