Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MSM-03 Gogg


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The result was delete. Sandstein 05:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

MSM-03 Gogg

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No reliable secondary sources to establish notability or provide real world context Jay32183 05:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Granted, I'm not familiar with this Anima thing, but this seems to be an article about a fictional company, that created a fictional armor suit, for a fictional cartoon character? A Google of the Zeonic Company comes up with nothing (aside from WP). A Google for MS-06M Zaku comes up with some hits, as does MSM-03 Gogg. (about 800 each, give or take) However, they all seem to be not reliable sources, (is Ebay a reliable source? *grin*). Again, I don't know about the whole cartoon Japanese industry, but it seems to me that any relevant information contained in the article, could certainly easily be put into this Mobile Suit Gundam article? Ariel ♥  Gold 05:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment A fictional company? Like  Rossum's Universal Robots, Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, Tyrell Corporation, Acme Corporation, etc?  That's not grounds for deletion.  OTOH, this is about a fictional object, like Light Saber or Shuttlecraft (Star Trek).  Which also isn't grounds for deletion. The key is notability, which is harder to establish for something where the majority of sources are not in English.  It does definitely need sources.  I recommend Merge into "Universal Century mobile suits". Edward321 02:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless sources are found to establish notability. Looks to me like this belongs in a specialized wiki somewhere Corpx 06:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete To satisfy WP:N, there would have to be multiple independent and reliable sources with substantial coverage of it. In this caase there is only one ref, and it appears to be a fan website, which does not satisfy WP:RS.  71.57.125.95 16:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect/Merge to a list of Zeon mobile suits or something like that (I think one exists but I can't find it right now). The stats (for this and other mobile suits) could be incorporated as a wikitable in said List article. Though this is one of the few Gundam entities that does have some real world significance, most sources are not in English and I don't have access to the Japanese sources. A stand-alone article is not suitable with the article as written. A redirect is preferable to outright deletion so that a new article would not be created by new editors who might wonder why there is no treatment at all of this. --Polaron | Talk 20:17, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


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