Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MS Tor Hollandia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. Mjroots (talk) 08:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

MS Tor Hollandia

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Non notable ship. Written like an advertisement. The article solely depends on a single source. Abishe (talk) 07:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Abishe (talk) 07:52, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Vorbee (talk) 11:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom Keep as article has now been fixed up and is worthy of inclusion as a stub. Bookscale (talk) 12:02, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - I see newspaper coverage here, although it is in Dutch so I'm not sure what it says (it appears to be about the opening of a new line in Saudi Arabia). I also see this reference in Dock and Harbour Authority, though it can only be seen in snippet. I don't thin we should delete without having a bit more in the way of checking, and my preference would be for a Redirect to Tor Line if WP:GNG is failed. FOARP (talk) 13:23, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, because nom does not support deletion. It asserts advertising, but it is nonsense that there is anything advertising-like about the article. (Or was bad stuff added then removed? If so, article was fixed and we can close AFD).  Nom also notes there is only one source, but that is not a reason for deletion either (you could tag, or expand the article yourself).  Nom asserts non-notable, begging question: why do you think the _topic_ is non-notable?  So we are left with "i don't like it"?  No assertion wp:BEFORE is met, no mention by anyone of having attempted to find sources. To delete voters above, what about nom carries any weight, for you ("per nom" meaning what in the nom, at all)? —Doncram (talk) 16:15, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * There are postcards and "covers"(?) about this. E.g. postcards in Ebay.  I am not sure, but i don't think that non-notable ships get postcards about them. --Doncram (talk) 16:32, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment - I've changed my !vote and agree the article should be kept. Bookscale (talk) 23:12, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Just by looking at books I found potentially useful references, plus one by Marine Matters., , . No postcards are not an indication of notability as tons of ships of every size, shape, and make sold novelty items. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I want to add that I improved the article and found that the ship had 4 different names. More needed to be added, but WP:N is met in my opinion . - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:39, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets the WP:SHIPS criterion in that it's over 100 tons. Ok its a car crash of an article but that can be rectified Lyndaship (talk) 18:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a stub that needs expansion, compare to how it looks now to when the AfD was placed. . - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Ok. I confirm that I have decided to withdraw from the nomination. Now the article has been expanded so I honour the responses from other users. Abishe (talk) 08:53, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Recently-created stub which is already on the way towards a more satisfactory article. Cannot see that it ever looked like an advertisement. Davidships (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Looks like I am on the mood of withdrawing this nomination. But I proposed Afd by looking at this revision. Now the article is very much improved and that's why most of them are saying to keep the article. I understand and I can opt out of this Afd. Abishe (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * - I you confirm you wish to withdraw this nomination, ping me and I'll do the honours. Mjroots (talk) 07:26, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


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