Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MTV Makes Me Want to Smoke Crack


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 15:27, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

MTV Makes Me Want to Smoke Crack

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Not only is the article unreferenced, but it doesn't prove notability.  I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)  I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The song was Beck's first single and the song that first drew attention to him by the media and major labels.  There is discussion of the song in Nevin Martell's biography of Beck at pages 15, 113, and 114.  See Google books preview here.  Another book here discusses how this track when released on the tiny Flipside label drew attention of the major labels to Beck.  Similarly, the Penguin Encyclopedia of Popular music here notes: "Beck sang MTV Makes Me Want To Smoke Crack' at Cafe Troy '93, co-owned by his mother, and a bidding war broke out, resolved when Beck signed with Geffen."  The Trouser Press Guide to 90s Rock here notes: "An embryonic single, "MTV Makes Me Wanna Smoke Crack," drew some appreciative smirks from fellow enemies of, er, The Man, but received little attention east of LA's city limits."  See also the Guinness Encyclopedia of Popular Music here.  The article here outlines the importance of the song in Beck's overall body of work.  There is also critical commentary on the song in, among other sources, the Boston Globe here, Consequence of Sound here, Philadelphia Inquirer here, Chicago Tribune here, Chicago Sun-Times here, Spin here, and The Telegraph here. Cbl62 (talk) 01:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. This single is notable for being Beck's first ever official release. Also an article being poorly referenced is not a valid reason to propose deletion. Please read: WP:DEL (Poor references are only a valid reason if verifiability is being called into question... Are you suggesting the single is a fake?) Johnny &quot;ThunderPeel2001&quot; Walker (talk) 15:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Beck's leading role in 1990s American rock seems self-evident and an article on a first release seems rational. Cbl62 above seems to provide enough independently published fodder to demonstrate notability of the song. Tag for sources, keep, improve. Carrite (talk) 16:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:BEFORE and WP:HEY. WP:V does not apply, as most of the claims can be sourced.  The good sources found (and noted above) should be added to the article.  XfD is not for cleanup. Bearian (talk) 21:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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