Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maa Jhanhiri Mangala Temple


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Absolutely no consensus to delete this article currently. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 11:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Maa Jhanhiri Mangala Temple

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Unsourced, not found on GoogleMaps, thus fails WP:V and WP:N Philg88 ♦talk 14:59, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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 * Comment The reason it doesn't appear on google maps is that there's a typo in the title. The actual name is Jhanjirimangala . Uanfala (talk) 15:16, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Move Draft obviously as this is imaginably acceptable but, like these subjects, better attention is needed. SwisterTwister   talk  19:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I have no issue with it moving to draft under the correct title. Philg88 ♦talk 09:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:22, 14 April 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'm relisting because there are Keep !votes that presume sources in other languages and likely notability and if available then then those ought to be evaluated. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:41, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to Jhanjirimangala Temple. There isn't an enormous amount on this in English, but since there must be more in Indian language sources, it seems likely to be a notable place. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:40, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep [and move to do  ncr  am  20:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC) --03:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  16:41, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I added the temple's coordinates from Google maps, which does cover it. I also added 2 or 3 sources, including relating to the 27 December 2015 break-in and robbery of the temple, there are 3 sources now in the article.  It is an ancient temple and a landmark in the area so perhaps is notable simply by wp:GEOLAND.  It is covered in numerous photos which you see if you click on AFD links above (the properly spelled version). -- do  ncr  am  17:20, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment. It seems notable on its own to me, and the article has 3 sources now (2 about recent thefts from temples in Cuttack, 1 about the numerous temples in Cuttack).  But also it is still marginal, and I note it is one of numerous small ancient temples in Cuttack.  I think it would also be acceptable to "Keep" it but move it to List of Hindu temples in Cuttack, corresponding to Category:Hindu temples in Cuttack, and I would develop that larger topic like List of temples in Bhubaneswar (Bhubaneswar is another city like Cuttack, also in Orissa state).  Hmm, here is a top list of temples in Orissa and here is a second-level list of other important temples in Orissa (Orissa is a larger region including Cuttack).  Those lists do not include this AFD subject one, or at least I am not recognizing it there.  Those may well be the more important ones, as they are presented.  I note there are many more temples already covered in wikipedia within Category:Hindu temples in Orissa.  I am deducing that the AFD subject one, Maa Jhanhiri Mangala or whatever name applies, is a lesser temple.  It would be fine to mention it in a list-article of course, and a list-article on temples in Cuttack is certainly notable/fine.  So I am coming around to wanting to "Keep" but move this one to be developed as that list-article.  I could wp:BOLDly go ahead to move and develop, but I hesitate to do that until there is some support. -- do  ncr  am  19:24, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, a list of such temples would undoubtedly be notable; if you're going to include this one within that list, you're basically !voting "delete" for this AfD's purposes; and this AfD should be no obstruction (nihil obstat) to creating a list. i.e. if you feel like it, go right ahead. If you'd like me to !vote "delete" for that purpose, I can do that; or we can keep, and then have a merge discussion, it doesn't matter. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:15, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * , thanks! Well it's nicer to the contributors to "Keep" the AFD subject article, at least within the edit history of the list-article.  If the list-article could be developed enough to be put in mainspace fast, separately, then it would be even better to close this one "Merge" and redirect it to the list (keeping the contributions in the redirect's edit history, which would get brought back if more sources emerged.  But a closer might have to be willing to say "Merge" without the list-article being great yet.  I'll start a draft at Draft:List of Hindu temples in Cuttack which could be used either way (by paste-in or by move).  Mostly I'd prefer to avoid an outright "Delete";  avoiding that is my motivation to be willing to work on a list-article so I hope a closer will take that into account. -- do  ncr  am  05:01, 22 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename to Jhanjirimangala Temple, perChiswick Chap (talk) above.--DThomsen8 (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


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