Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MacDonald Turkey Point Marina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that this article does not meet the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia, with a lack of reliable independent sources.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 15:38, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

MacDonald Turkey Point Marina

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Non-notable business SmartSE (talk) 14:00, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 14:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Week Keep. A quick search turned up this []. Confirms it is the largest fresh water marina in Canada, and for 16 years has hosted the charity fishing tournament.  May be enough.  Article certainly needs much improvement.  MB (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That link is to a press release that is not independent of the subject and so is of no use for establishing notability. SmartSE (talk) 20:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Agree with it being a press release, though from what I can tell Turkey Point doesn't have a local newspaper so there isn't much press to cite directly. Ideally, someone from the area could expand this article to explain why it is, in fact, noteworthy. neelium (talk) 01:23, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not how Wikipedia works - we require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic. SmartSE (talk) 21:45, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:57, 11 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am a freelancer trying to assist the business in keeping their page from deletion. I have made some improvements to the article. I realize I have not formatted the references exactly right, but it has been so long since I've edited Wikipedia articles that I couldn't remember my old username. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. Laskiblue62 (talk) 01:43, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. I think the page could be transformed to a port page instead of company page to comply with notability. Justinkowalsky (talk) 00:02, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Note I blocked the creator of this page for spamming and they appeared to be engaged in SEO. All of the three !voters so far are new editors, one has disclosed they are freelancing and I have strong reasons to believe that the other two have also been asked to come here. Please don't close this until some other editors have weighed in. Happy to provide reasons for my suspicion privately in light of WP:OUTING. SmartSE (talk) 12:22, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

For the record, I was just trying to help a small business owner out because I care about such things. I've withdrawn from their project. I was unaware that my tiny freelance fee would constitute such a tempest in a teapot. I think I now remember why I left the Wikipedia community in the first place many years ago (different username). Peace out. Laskiblue62 (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Selective Merge to Norfolk County, Ontario, which will improve the merge target article per WP:PRESERVE. North America1000 12:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see how that broken tucsonnewsnow.com link proves anything and of course we wouldn't keep it just on the basis of hosting a charity fishing event. It either passes WP:COMPANY or it doesn't, surely. Now, this latest effort to save it by the self-declared paid PR editor by adding contact info related to it being "a Canada Border Services Agency designated marine reporting site" -- I'm no expert in marine matters but I can't find anything in the notability guidelines to cover this, and I daresay WP:NOTDIRECTORY applies. The article creator User:Macdonjo has been banned. We have blatant canvassing, here and at Articles for deletion/Thomas Smale, we have SPAs popping up to !vote keep -- the whole thing's rather seedy. If this were a notable topic I'd overlook it but it isn't. Or in the case of the one untainted !keep vote thus far, it only weakly is. I just don't see the value in rewarding this sort of behaviour, for a topic that is so blatantly promotional. Kudos to Smartse for his alert work on these two related Afds. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - failure of WP:CORP standards. Brianhe (talk) 12:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as my searches are not finding anything convincingly better. SwisterTwister   talk  05:02, 17 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.