Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MacTalla Mor


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Stifle (talk) 12:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

MacTalla Mor

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Non-notable band with few claims of notability. Article also has some COI problems, as evidenced here. Google news only gets one hit, and MacTalla Mor is just mentioned once in that article. CyberGhostface (talk) 17:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 17:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

MacTalla Mor is notable.. They are recognized as one of the leading Celtic Roots bands in America. Among many other notable events, they were recently chosen to perform at the British Memorial Garden in NYC for a major Tartan Week event attended by the Presiding Officer of the Scottish Parliament Alex Fergusson and were the only Celtic Fusion band choosen to appear at this years Clearwater Festival celebrating Pete Seeger's 90th Birthday (http://www.clearwater.org/festival/). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothariseldon (talk • contribs) 05:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Nothariseldon (talk) 05:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC) — Nothariseldon (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

There are numerous similar articles about less notable Celtic bands which have not been considered for deletion. While the notability of MacTalla Mor has been questioned, no one is questioning the expertise of the examiner to judge such notability. And there is no democratic or academic means to question the arbitrary claim of non notability.

....one knows that it was invariably left by either an Admin or a member of some squad or cabal, some officiating technopriest of the Cult of Ignorance....

It is all done in the name of a representation of a majority and culture for the masses. The unassailable mediocrity of the entries is the credo of Wikipedians, enshrined in a new ideology, sans-party, the cult of the NPOV (Neutral Point of View). The NPOV is supposed to be the result of the checks and balances of community participation in the Wikipedia project. But that's baloney - since the community effort is an exercise in power by the new cyber-bureaucrats that go by the name of Wikipedia Administrators, and the power-play in which the "house always wins" specializes in optimizing the degradation of information to fit it into premade slots. It is more an axiomatic of overcodes by voluntarily enslaved cyberbureaucrats, than a party-police machine. Yet, it functions with a hardline reminescent of fascism red or black, and deploys a thought-police filled with policies and procedural guidelines, as these excerpts from Requests for Adminship so well relate:

What Wikipedia is not, is an effective repository of the best in knowledge - or even, much more modestly, of actual, factual and adequate knowledge. Instead, Wikipedia has become a forum for an officiating falsification of knowledge, a system for disinformation and an assurance of misinformation. Backed by cabals of administrators and bureaucrats, Wikipedia features the raw, unfettered and exhibitionistic domination exerted by ignorant and fascist bullies. It is easy to see how a few - ignorant and stupid ones - can, in the name of a 'democratic access to knowledge', establish the worst kind of dictatorship: the fascism of the expression, the fascism of the most mediocre and most ill-digested of commonplace notions. It is easy to see, because, in fact, our most public institutions are now subject to just that same kind of fascism - the diffuse fascism of unquestioned majorities represented by groups of loudmouths manipulated by bully boys...... From: Wikipedia A Techno-Cult of Ignorance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothariseldon (talk • contribs) 05:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)  — Nothariseldon (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Sheesh; what is your problem? If that's the way you feel about Wikipedia, then why are you here? THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 06:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Backed by cabals of administrators and bureaucrats, Wikipedia features the raw, unfettered and exhibitionistic domination exerted by ignorant and fascist bullies." Wow, this must be one helluva band. Delete —Preceding unsigned comment added by PacificBoy (talk • contribs) 09:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Love it or leave it"? How about. "I know what I believe and I believe what I believe is right." Classic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothariseldon (talk • contribs) 15:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)  — Nothariseldon (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete - I can find many mentions in concert announcements. They certainly make many apperances on the Celtic festival circuit based on the number of announcements found.  However, i am unable to find a siongle article written about the band itself. -- Whpq (talk) 16:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Clearly fails WP:BAND. Suggest User:Nothariseldon reads that page and WP:TLDR. ukexpat (talk) 17:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Palm Beach Post http://www.palmbeachpost.com/entertainment/content/entertainment/tgif/epaper/2009/03/13/tgi_irishfest_web_0313.html
 * Keep With a quick search I found these:

The Tribune Review Pittsburgh http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/ae/music/s_586069.html

Celtic MP3s Magazine (http://www.celticmp3s.com/magazine/2007/07/new-colossus-by-mactalla-mor.shtml) Luxury Experience Magazine (http://luxuryexperience.com/music_scene/music_artists/mactalla_mor_-_piping_hot_and_jacob%27s_ladder.html)

News-Times "Celtic Christmas Spectacular" search MacTalla Mor in archives www.newstimes.com

CBS Ch 3 Eyewitness News Joy For the Kids Concert December 2006 http://www.wfsb.com/riseandshine/index.html

Celtic Radio Music Award Roots Traitional 2008 (http://www.celticradio.net/php/celtic_radio_awards_archive.php?year=2008)

Brookhaven Lab News http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=07-17

Times Heral-Record by Sandy Tomcho November 19 2007

Celtic Band Celebrates Its Roots by Rachel Collins :Southampton East; :Nov 16, 2006;  :Arts & Living;  :B3 Taconic Press Arts Entertainment

Interviews and broadcasts on WFUV, WBAI Pacifica Radio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asa Erikson (talk • contribs) 19:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)  — Asa Erikson (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - Maybe not notable enough for Wikipedian's but notable enough to appear again in a few weeks at Clearwater Festival with legends like Taj Mahal, Arlo Guthrie, Richie Havens, The Persuasions, Pete Seeger and have song from "The New Colossus" featured on Clearwater Festival's website.( Nothariseldon (talk) 05:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC) )
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.