Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mac (rapper)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was '''keep. Sources added show notability. Non-admin closure.  TN ‑ X - Man  15:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)'''

Mac (rapper)
Here lies another myspace musician who fails the basics of WP:MUSIC, and particularly lacks non-trivial coverage from multiple reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 17:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep The article itself needs a lot of work, but the subject is notable. A quick google search shows that he had wide released albums long before Myspace was a glint in Tom Anderson's eye. ~ NossB (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Google searches really don't play into whether or not we retain a WP:BLP article. Please show evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party sources as requested.  JBsupreme (talk) 18:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe you misunderstand. WP:BLP applies to the content of an article, not whether the article should exist. The article may need repair, but the question here is whether the musician in question is notable, and guidelines for that are set forth by WP:BAND. I will have to do some research to determine whether he passes by criteria 5 and 6, but my instinct tells me that, provided research is done and some major repair work is done, this article will survive. 67.187.45.161 (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No 67.187.45.161 I understand just fine. WP:BLP applies to the content and our general inclusion guidelines also state that without non-trivial publications about a subject there need not be an article, period.  JBsupreme (talk) 08:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Keep per Metro 90 Vrefron (talk) 19:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Although I was not previously familiar with this rapper, he clearly satisfies the WP:MUSIC criteria. He had two albums reach the top 10 on the Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, one of which peaked at #11 on the main Billboard 200 album chart. Furthermore, his indictment on a second-degree murder charge received coverage in Rolling Stone, so we should be able to produce WP:BLP-compliant discussion of that aspect of his life. See also this mention in a book published by University of Chicago Press. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep contingent on sourcing  WP:MUSIC pretty clearly says, "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart". According to the article, he's charted on the Billboard 200 twice, it just needs to be referenced (and I don't know how to do it, else I'd be bold and do it myself). &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 05:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've referenced that now. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment changed to just plain "KEEP" now that it's sourced. &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 05:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.