Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mac Tonnies


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The result was Keep Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 21:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Mac Tonnies

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Contested Prod - Par WP:N and WP:NOTMEMORIAL Nomination withdrawn, clearly notable. (Though how did i miss it in the first place?) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 18:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - It honestly breaks my heart to hear about someone dying at such a young age, but Wikipedia is not a memorial, and the article fails the notability guideline, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am the Czar of all Russias!)  19:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - He was profiled in the local paper in 1995 and there a number of eulogies on various blogs now, but it's hard to argue that he's notable.Prezbo (talk) 01:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought I'm going to stay out of this. There might be enough information in the two newspaper articles about him for an article.Prezbo (talk) 08:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Does not appear to meet WP:BIO. The article was created essentially as an obituary, which is not what Wikipedia is for. Subsequent edits have improved the article but not adequately addressed the basic notability concern. —Caesura(t) 19:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep It seems you guys aren't exactly familiar with Mac Tonnies, or his work. Mac had revolutionary, controversial, and singular views in the field of ufology. His book "After the Martian Apocalypse" was just the beginning of this, and he was on the cusp of becoming a real force in fortean literature. His new one, "The Cryptoterrestrials," will be released posthumously, and is likely to be much more influential. Mac's ideas will undoubtedly influence ufologists and forteans for generations to come. I think this makes him very "notable." Add to this the fact that he was beloved by so many for his wonderful and prolific blog, and I think he deserves a Wikipedia entry. It shouldn't be hard at all to flesh it out with biographical information, career details and more on his theories. I'd do it myself, if I knew more about him. Just give his family and colleagues a chance to process his passing first. - slowave 17:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Strong Keep Oodles of coverage for this author, futurist, and freak (Wired calls him "undeniably a bit of a weirdo." :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:08, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There are seven results. Most of them are trivial mentions, press releases, or about different people.Prezbo (talk) 06:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wired notes one of his books and says: "Mac Tonnies is undeniably a bit of a weirdo. Perhaps that’s why I like him so much, though I agree with nearly nothing that he writes. His subject is largely the future of humanity: he enthusiastically imagines a future, sometimes hopefully, sometimes apocalyptically, where the transhuman is real." He's published by Simon and Schuster. He's featured in a Canadian documentary series "Life from Other Planets" and I haven't even gotten to the google books sources yet. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The google books results are a couple books where he's listed in the acknowledgments, his own books, and one book which has a sentence about him.Prezbo (talk) 08:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The book credits him with reviving the cryptoterrestrial hypothesis and recommends his book. The acknowledgments support his being influential. I think it's plenty of coverage especially considering the limitations of google searches. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep This delete message came only because of the first memorial edition....but now slowly we ll do it better. Mr J.G.Ballard this year called Mac Tonnies as a friend, who continues his Ballardian work. Many other famous writers did the same. 77.49.180.248 (talk) 10:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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