Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maciej Cegłowski


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus herein is that the subject meets notability guidelines per available sources about him. Aspects about the potential of WP:BLP1E for the subject in the nomination have been adequately countered in this discussion. Also of note is that the article was expanded with more sources after this nomination for deletion. North America1000 01:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Maciej Cegłowski

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

The subject of this page fails to meet WP:GNG. Subject matter isn't notable for anything other than being the creator of Pinboard, which is a small and insignificant  website (Alexa rank as of April 2016 is 24,948). References 6, 8, 10, 11 and 12 are direct links to opinion pieces to the subject's own blog, this is direct contradiction to WP:PROMOTION. Reference 4 is again another opinion piece by the subject, the eclipsing amount of opinionated autobiographical sources and the lack of  "Independent of the subject" sources verifying the claims presented in this article is really worrisome. The logical solution is to push anything of value here  into the actual Pinboard article. This is actually the page's third nomination for deletion becuase the article's main contributor, User:Blythwood (85% of the edits), immediately  reverts any proposed deletion (less than 20 minutes in both cases) which prevents discussion  of the article's issues  identified by me; any suggestions to prevent this in the future would be greatly appreciated. OutnumberedArmy (talk) 17:26, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 June 19.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 17:42, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I have improved the article by adding several "Independent of the subject" sources found from searching Google News in an attempt to objectively respond to the AFD reasoning above. In particular (in this version, subsequently re-edited, but the work remains there to retrieve if you like)
 * re: "Subject matter isn't notable for anything other than being the creator of Pinboard" - most of the (now listed) talks and writings that external sources have referenced are regarding subjects not having to do with the creator of Pinboard.
 * re: "the eclipsing amount of opinionated autobiographical sources and the lack of  "Independent of the subject" sources verifying the claims presented in this article is really worrisome." Agreed and thus I have added many more external references. Only 7 of the now 31 references are by Maciej himself. Feel free to edit down the autobiographical sources as I believe they are mostly unnecessary but left them in place for others to consider editing.
 * re: "logical solution is to push anything of value here into the actual Pinboard article" - feel free to copy or move anything Pinboard specific, as I feel the majority of the material in the article is no longer Pinboard-specific.
 * re: "This is actually the page's third nomination for deletion" - it is my hope that by improving the article we can find a consensus to keep the article rather than debating deletion. Thanks for raising the concerns, as it was this prodding that encouraged the article to be improved. Feel free to note any additional concerns and we can continue iterating to improve the article. Thanks! Tantek (talk) 02:42, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - as article creator. Cegłowski is extremely well-known as a writer and commentator on the internet and on software/web development, I think almost certainly more so for that than for the company he runs. (Full (lack of) disclosure - while I'm a fan of his writing, and have therefore cited it, I have never met with or interacted with him in any way, and am not a customer of his company personally.) Ethan Zuckerman's article on him in The Atlantic is a good example of this - it starts by calling him "an important and influential programmer" and only mentions Pinboard quite near the end. If you look at the sources, what's striking is that most of those quoting or referencing his writing and speaking don't mention his company so much, often really more for background. Blythwood (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep The subject is not just famous for one subject (i.e. Pinboard) but is notable as a writer and speaker generally within his industry. A cursory search of Google Books and Google News pulls up even more sources than are cited in the article currently. Steven Walling &bull; talk   07:02, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Reviewed references and the subject has been featured in prominent media and books. Aust331 (talk) 08:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.