Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maciej Sulęcki


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Maciej Sulęcki

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Non-notable boxer does not meet WP:NBOX. Unreferenced excepted for Boxrec Peter Rehse (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:37, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete Unsourced article except for a link to his fight record and it doesn't show any significant titles. At best this is WP:TOOSOON. Mdtemp (talk) 19:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete This article shows no significant coverage and I don't see anything that shows he meets WP:NBOX. I don't think winning the vacant "Republic of Poland International" title is enough.  I'm not even sure what that title is or who sanctions it.  His record is good, so this may just be a case of WP:TOOSOON.  I have no objections to this article being userfied. Papaursa (talk) 04:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable boxer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Very poorly written article but he does pass WP:NBOX under Criteria 2 as national champion of Poland, however, I am not sure if there are other affiliated sanctioning organization is Poland. The level of opposition he has faced has really ramped up since he won that title of two of the last three opponents that he has beaten have their own articles. I will improve it a little now but my suggestion would be to improve it not delete it. --Donniediamond (talk) 12:40, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Just re-read that. He is the Polish International champion, a weaker title than the national title, but I still just about say Keep especially after the victory and manner of victory over Proska. That was a very notable victory and he has become the only man to stop Proska with the exception of GGG.--Donniediamond (talk) 12:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Ignore that, he won both the Polish national title and the Polish International title. I have improved the article a little and I am back to Keep. --Donniediamond (talk) 13:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:51, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Pinging earlier !voters for possible re-evaluation after Donniediamond's research: ; ; . - The Bushranger One ping only 23:54, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Still does not meet the WP:NBOX criteria. A professional national title does not guarantee a pass.Peter Rehse (talk) 00:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Does not meet WP:NBOX as the title is not the national title, but even so it does not appear there is WP:SIGCOV which overrides any argument if an individual met even one of the criteria in that guideline. Mkdw talk 00:17, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: the Polish national title isn't a national title? And there is significant coverage, it's just that its in Polish. --Donniediamond (talk) 09:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The burden of proof is on those arguing keep to substantiate their claims that there is significant coverage. The Republic of Poland Middleweight Title has only been held once in 2013 and was vacant. Even if they hold this title, all the guideline says is they're likely notable -- not that they are notable. Mkdw talk 19:54, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Coverage is routine sports reporting--fight results and announcements. No significant coverage fails the GNG.  Title is one of hundreds of minor titles and the sponsoring organization isn't given so it may not even be from a major org. Jakejr (talk) 21:19, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. He's ranked #11 in the world by one of the 4 major ranking organisations, is ranked in the top 20 in the world by Boxrec, and there's quite a bit of Polish coverage. Clearly at a level where he should be included. --Michig (talk) 08:52, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


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