Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mack Rhoades


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The result was keep. General consensus. (non-admin closure) Nightfury 08:34, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Mack Rhoades

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University athletic directors are rarely, if ever, notable. Not seeing anything satisfying WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:40, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Not an automatically notable position, no in depth sources. Reywas92Talk 01:59, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted after a discussion at WT:CFB
 * Delete we need more than his employer's website to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * We don't delete articles based on their current state. Independent, reliable sources are abound here.—Bagumba (talk) 09:55, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 08:17, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:GNG with significant coverage in multiple, independent sources. A sample includes: 1) "Mack attack: Two years in, Baylor AD chasing challenges with gusto" Waco Tribune-Herald, 2) "There’s not much sadness that Mack Rhoades is leaving Mizzou" The Kansas City Star, 3) "Baylor AD Mack Rhoades: NCAA investigation will 'lead us where it leads us'" Associated Press, 4) "Univ. Of Missouri AD Mack Rhoades Shocks School By Leaving For Same Position At Baylor" Sports Business Daily, 5) "AD Mack Rhoades' surprising move from Missouri to Baylor: Three things to know" CBS Sports. The nomination is incorrect in citing WP:BIO, as it includes WP:BASIC that says meeting GNG is sufficient.—Bagumba (talk) 09:55, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly meets GNG per sources referenced by Bagumba. ADs of Power Conference schools are notable more often than not; they are in charge of making newsworthy decisions for athletic departments whose revenues are in the hundreds of millions. There are 35 public universities with athletic department revenues higher than the NHL's Arizona Coyotes. Rhoades is particularly notable for his proximity to one of the most public scandals in college athletics in recent memory. —Ostealthy (talk) 15:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Has served as athletic director at four Division I FBS universities (Baylor, Missouri, Houston, Akron) over the past 15 years. Passes WP:GNG. See, e.g.,, , , , , , , , and many more. Cbl62 (talk) 20:40, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep I disagree with the nominator--I have found that athletic directors almost always produce enough press to surpass WP:GNG and that clearly has been shown to be the case here.--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:09, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - I see plenty of coverage to meet WP:GNG. Rikster2 (talk) 00:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly notable subject. Jweiss11 (talk) 04:30, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC, per the sources provided by Bagumba and Cbl62. Contrary to the nominator's statement, nearly all NCAA D-I athletic directors do indeed meet WP:GNG, which he would likely have discovered had he done a WP:BEFORE search prior to filing this AfD nomination. Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:29, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per Bagumba and Cbl62. PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 18:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep many many Division I athletic directors on Wikipedia, with nothing else to show for their name. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


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