Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macklemore & Ryan Lewis (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Speedy Keep per WP:SNOW. Andrew (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
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Redundant to Macklemore and Ryan Lewis. The awards were given to the artists individually, not as a group. Previous AFD kept entirely on weak arguments such as WP:ITSNOTABLE. There is nothing to say about the two together, since 99% of the content is already in their own standalone articles. Three sources are very scant for a supposedly "notable" duo. Note that "Macklemore & Ryan Lewis discography" redirects to "Macklemore discography". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: This was the subject of very long discussions earlier, one quite extensive actually. Please refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macklemore_%26_Ryan_Lewis and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Macklemore_%26_Ryan_Lewis The duo are very famous as a duo and quite an extensive work together as a duo although each has its own materials as well. By the way, I find it is very premature to ask for yet another deletion this soon after the January 2014 discussion. It was clear from both discussion that this joint page was very useful and many pages directed to this particular page rather than just Macklemore page or just Ryan Lewis. The redirecting suggested just to Macklemore was very subjective as if we were forcing the reader to one half of a duo of our choice rather than the reader's actual choice. Let the reader decide after arriving at the joint page. Incidentally the joint page has a tremendously high rate of reference, an additional indication of its importance and utility as a separate page See http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Macklemore_%26_Ryan_Lewis werldwayd (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If it's so freaking notable, then why is it so tiny and undersourced? Hmm? Are you expecting it to just magically grow into an FA overnight? Oh wait, it can't because EVERYTHING IS REDUNDANT TO THEIR SOLO ARTICLES. Again, "Macklemore & Ryan Lewis discography" is a redirect to "Macklemore discography" anyway. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Macklemore & Ryan Lewis discography is a separate independently held page and not a redirect. Plus that if it ever becomes a redirect later on to Macklemore, it would be an injustice giving preferential treatment to Macklemore. The duo do have their distinct series of releases and their distinct discography. Having said that, yes Macklemore does have some of his own releases (without Lewis) which should be reflected in a "Macklemore discography", like his releases The Language of My World and Open Your Eyes and so does Ryan Lewis (without Macklemore) with his own releases reflected in a "Ryan Lewis discography". werldwayd (talk) 21:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The discography was a redirect at the time of the comment - two days later the discography was restored. Check the history.-- Laun  chba  ller  22:22, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:MUSICBIO, WP:MUSICBIO, WP:MUSICBIO and had you looked at the previous nomination you would know that it meets WP:MUSICBIO. I would argue that this nomination meets WP:SK because I take the view that six months should be left before renominating.-- Laun  chba  ller  18:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep as nonsensical nomination, Extremely notable & Easily passes WP:MUSICBIO. →Davey 2010→  →Talk to me!→  22:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep and speedy close. No rational, guideline-based argument advanced for deletion. Subject obviously meets the GNG. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep and speedy close — Per the consensus of the last AfD. Obviously meets WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO as a group. STATic message me!   02:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep as there is substantial coverage on the two as a duo to meet WP:GNG and WP:BIO. There might not be much material in this article right now, but it can definitely be expanded to something like LMFAO (Redfoo and Sky Blu (rapper)) or Daft Punk (Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo) or Bad Meets Evil (Eminem and Royce da 5'9"). XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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