Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maclab


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The result was keep. John254 17:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Maclab

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Apparently non-notable software, deleted cca 2 years ago via proposed deletion as PowerLab and MacLab (I am restoring these two pages for full consideration). - Mike Rosoft (talk) 22:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC) Rationale: MacLab/maclab is the old name of PowerLab, and LabChart is the visualization end of the whole shebang. All four are part of the same system. In response to the notion that that there are "hundreds of citations" (worse yet "6000 citations")... "[Oodles of] citations" is gross marketing hype, and incompatible with what the real world understands under the term "citation". What the company website has done is list papers that merely note that they used the product. In order to ensure experimental reproducibility, researchers are required to note which tools were used in their experiments. The mere indication that such-and-such tool was used does not constitute a "citation" of that tool beyond its raw data value. That the website calls these allusions "citations" is misguiding, and is no more meaningful than suggesting that a researcher who times an experiment is "citing" his watch. The gimmicky, out-of-context misappropriation of those allusions on a company's website does not qualify them as Wikipedia references, which is how they were forwarded here on WP. FWIW: I have just cleaned up LabChart. The ADInstruments marketing folks may consider the revised version an example of how to write a sales flyer such that it doesn't violate Wikipedia's WP:NOTADVERTISING policy. -- Fullstop (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep pioneering in its day.  I had no idea that they were still around at all, but see the article for the company ADInstruments.  There are several  good 3rd party reviews listed in google News Archive  -- MacWeek, MacWorld-- and a number of scientific papers using their technology . Why don't people search--most important when writing, but also before nominating for deletion. I've been finding the GNews archive increasingly useful for clearing away the underbrush on searches like this. DGG (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep MacLab and PowerLab systems appear to still be used quite heavily in a number of research and academic institutes around the world. Not only are there hundreds of citations on the companies website, there are plenty of articles around on search engines about usage of these systems. --Keepsmilyn (talk) 05:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This could be bias because i started the ADInstruments wiki. But I was surprised to see the PowerLab/MacLab wiki come back on!! When I'm free I will try to update the information on MacLab/PowerLab with more information and references. And just to correct Keepsmilyn sentence, on their webpage there are actually over 6000 citations! : Kirin lover (talk) 09:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge all three with LabChart, under one title (e.g. PowerLab).


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.