Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mad Wax: The Surf Movie


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Consensus is sourcing is insufficient Star   Mississippi  21:38, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Mad Wax: The Surf Movie

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Article about a short film, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NFILM. The only notability claim in evidence here is that the film exists, which isn't automatically enough in the absence of a WP:GNG-worthy volume of third-party media coverage about the film to externally validate its significance -- but the sourcing consists of two directory entries that aren't support for notability at all, and one short blurb on a blog that doesn't represent enough coverage to vault this over GNG all by itself. In fact, I strongly suspect that this was really meant as a WP:COATRACK for the soundtrack album, since the creator's edit history pertains much more strongly to music (including the band credited with the soundtrack's creation) than it does to film -- but albums aren't "inherently" notable just because they exist either, and still have to be shown to have GNG-worthy reliable source coverage about them, but absolutely none of the sourcing here addresses any potential notability under WP:NMUSIC either. Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt this film, or its soundtrack album, from having to be the subject of quite a bit more media coverage and analysis than this. Bearcat (talk) 13:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Music,  and Australia. Bearcat (talk) 13:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep: Found a few articles that may be enough to establish notability: WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:20, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Medium is a user-generated blogging platform, and thus doesn't count as GNG-building coverage per WP:MEDIUM, and the Forte link isn't taking me to an article about this film, but just to a blank page that keeps feeding me "recommended" other articles it wants me to read. Bearcat (talk) 12:29, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The Forte link does dwell upon the film and is signed (John Foss). - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:26, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  19:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Not only a COATRACK for the soundtrack, but it was certainly also made as an infomercial for the surfboard manufacturer's products, as most surf and ski films are.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 16:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources exist:
 * 1) https://www.surfertoday.com/surf-movies/mad-wax-the-surf-movie
 * 2) https://www.surferrule.com/mad-wax-the-surf-movie/
 * 3) https://www.surf30.net/2020/01/mad-wax-la-parafina-magica.html
 * 4) mentions in studies on surf films: https://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1994/940602/06020042.htm ; https://filmlexikon.uni-kiel.de/doku.php/s:surfenimfilm-2483
 * We're not looking for blogs, directory entries or glancing namechecks of its existence in lists, we're looking for analytical coverage about the film in reliable sources. Bearcat (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Add. The film is repeatedly presented as a cult-classic of its genre. See: etc. There are many other sources. This film seems clearly notable and I will leave it at that.- My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank)
 * 1) https://campaignbrief.com/world-wide-minds-ben-nott-pays/；
 * 2) https://surfingworld.com.au/watching-making-surfing-motion-pictures/　；
 * 3) https://www.theinertia.com/gear/altra-olympus-5-hike-low-gtx-hiking-shoe-review/ ,
 * 4) https://www.surfertoday.com/surfing/the-magical-surf-wax-with-teleporting-powers
 * Comment But are there any sources outside of the surf industry? That's what's more important; we don't want circular references.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 16:29, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Circular references is a valid concern, but sources being industry specific is not, only reliability matters for sources.★Trekker (talk) 18:05, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, but it hasn't been adequately established that the sources being shown here are reliable or WP:GNG-worthy at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:36, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Sure, there is a source for the film's release and its spinoff. But what about the soundtrack? As of now, I don't see it. Also, because of Wikipedia's demand for sources, just having one clearly isn't enough. HarukaAmaranth (話) 02:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete IMDB is the first in google search, then a surf website, then pinterest and amazon. There is nothing to be found for this film, making it non-notable. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 22:50, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete  - Fails NF; clearly not notable at all! Ekdalian (talk) 14:15, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


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