Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madaraka Estate


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Madaraka Estate

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Non-notable neighborhood. No reliable sources. Corvus cornix talk  05:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Question - Why was this article nominated for deletion within ten minutes of creation? --Oakshade (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably because WP:DEADLINE works both ways (btw, I'm neutral here). Erpert (let's talk about it) 20:35, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - Easily found very significant coverage from reliable sources not to mention the reliable source already in the article.   The location of Strathmore University. --Oakshade (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment This article was nominated for deletion only minutes after the article was created! What about undertaking some research before posting AFD nominations? Julius Sahara (talk)
 * Keep - I've seen this happen multiple times already in my short time perusing AfD. Article made, an hour or less later - "AfD!" Have so many Wikipedians really forgotten WP:BEFORE (not to mention WP:BITE)? - The Bushranger Return fire Flank speed 10:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the assumptions of good faith and for the interesting idea that an article which doesn't declare any notability shouold be kept.  Corvus cornix  talk  20:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, I still don't see anything in the article which makes this any more notable than any other neighborhood in the world.  Corvus cornix  talk  20:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Being a neighborhood in one of Africa's largest cities in itself is an assertion of notability. Your deletion rationale "No reliable sources" when in fact they could've been found in seconds with a simple g-search and the fact this was nominated for AfD within 10 minutes of article creation suggests that WP:BEFORE was not adhered to.  If you'd like to open bad faith case and start a request for comment or something, I look forward to the actions of this AfD being investigated so as administrators can come to their own conclusions. --Oakshade (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't be ridiculous, there's no way your comments merit an RFC, it's just lack of civility. But are you trying to claim that I am assuming bad faith?   Corvus cornix  talk  22:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep A significant and notable neighborhood in one of the largest cities in Africa. Sources demonstrate notability, and besides, defined neighborhoods of major cities tend to be considered notable here, as witness the thousands of such articles about neighborhoods in US cities. --MelanieN (talk) 01:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This is a small housing project, not a true neighborhood.  I'm aware that in some countries "Estate" can be used for a much more extensive area than it would be in the US, where it usually refers to a non-notable commercial development project. But this is not one of  them. 45 acres and 600 families do not usually make a notable  neighborhood in a large city, in any country.    DGG ( talk ) 22:03, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.