Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madison Steigerwald


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Sandstein 18:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Madison Steigerwald


Contested prod. Original prod reason: lack of notability. – Gloy 19:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge with Disneyland. Her being there first on the right day seems to be her sole claim to fame. B.Wind 01:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep She was the subject of at least a couple of articles as the references show and there's too much original information here on this subject to be merged to the Disneyland article.  --Oakshade 22:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete You have got to be kidding me... We have zero relevant information about this person. How can we be an encyclopedia if we have a biographical article with no biographical content? Basically, we can say she was 15 in July 2005 (but we can't verify that information) and she has a grandma... The article contains pure speculation like "It is rumored that she, like Dave MacPherson, will receive special privileges like invitations to special events or even a life-time pass." and complete Disney public-relations junk like "Madison Steigerwald is significant to Disneyland's history because she is considered to be first person in line for the next generation of Disneyland visitors." Now of course, we could clean all of that up and make sure the article conforms to our policies on verifiability, reliable sources (which would exclude the Disney public relations stuff), WP not a soapbox and so on. What would be left? Nothing. A two line article with zero encyclopedic value. How can we expect Wikipedia to be taken seriously when we allow ourselves to be free space for the Disney marketing machine? Pascal.Tesson 16:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pascal.Tesson. WP:BIO requires a person be the primary subject of published works, whereas Steigerwald was barely mentioned. She's already mentioned prominently in Disneyland, so a merge is redundant.--Kchase T 08:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached  Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 17:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I apologise. I'm grumpy in the morning before my coffee. I merely meant to point out by the above that the rationale for the article is flawed, as being first in line for something does not make one notable. DrKiernan 09:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pascal and Kchase. Contra to Oakshade, she does not appear to be the subject of any published works, including those listed in the Wikipedia article.  There are 2 sentences about her in the first ref, nothing in the second.  No merge to Disneyland is necessary, because the only information that can be reliably verified about her is already there.  Pan Dan 17:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pascal. WMMartin 17:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete not a particularly close call. If Disney wants to promote this young woman they are free to do so elsewhere. Allon Fambrizzi 06:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi
 * Delete I was first in line for a coffee at the stall on campus this morning. I am the first of a new generation of coffee-drinkers. Someone write an article about me! DrKiernan 08:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Unequivocal Delete. Otherwise, people queuing in line for the annual Selfridges sale could be knocking on the wikipedia door next. Ohconfucius 09:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.