Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madrigal Shipping Lines


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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Madrigal Shipping Lines

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Fails WP:NCORP, no references and the links are dead. There is some blatantly incorrect info in the article re building and owning the cruise liners Sun and Dawn Princess. Googling I am not even convinced that the shipping line ever existed in Australia Lyndaship (talk) 15:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:00, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:00, 5 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete, agree completely outdated info, but reads as if company is still active. the BLU ASX rego now belongs to another company. Parent link in info box now points to MBCGame StarCraft League. Teraplane (talk) 23:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - Not only is this not notable, but I have strong suspicions that this may be a hoax (and who knows why the article has been in existence for 12 years!) and liable for speedy deletion. Fails WP:V and WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. There was a Madrigal Shipping Company in the Philippines from around the late 1940s to 1960s (see here and here for examples), and there is a Madrigal Shipping Company registered in Cyprus (link) but those companies bears no resemblance what is described in the article. Some things that make me suspicious are:
 * The company does not appear on the ASIC or ABR registers (which it should if it is registered as a company in Australia (particularly as part of a publicly listed company), or even if it is a foreign company headquartered in Australia);
 * Bluefreeway's ASX announcements are still available on the ASX website even though the company has been delisted, but there is nothing about any sort of deal with Madrigal Shipping around 2008 (and BlueFreeway was a digital marketing business, so why on earth would it be buying ships?). Even a month after the so-called "deal" was made Bluefreeway entered into a major contract with Lion Nathan for its beverage marketing, which leads me to believe that it was not also investing in shipping at the same time;
 * As Lyndaship points out, the information about the company building and owning the cruise liners is blatantly false. The Sun Princess (now Pacific World) and Dawn Princess (now Pacific Explorer) were built by Fincantieri in Trieste, Italy. As far as I can tell the ships have (at least until last year) been owned by P&O or Carnival Cruise lines;
 * The Internet Wayback Archive has no listing for the company's website listed in the article, ever (which would be unusual if the website had been in existence). A Google search turns up nothing either;
 * Google searches for the properties listed under Madrigal's assets bring up no results. I suspect these are also hoaxes.
 * Deus et lex (talk) 00:21, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and Deus et lex. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:GNG. Could not find reliable sources via database search of Australasian newspapers. Cabrils (talk) 02:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SIGCOV and WP:V. Not only are there no news nor newspaper stories about this company, I can't verify key facts. Bearian (talk) 21:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.