Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maggie Calloway


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The result was   keep. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Maggie Calloway

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Delete: Non-notable actor with a very, very brief career. Made three films, the last in 1932. Very few ghits. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 01:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete for lack of evidence showing that she had notable roles. JJL (talk) 01:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep There are enough mentions in Google books to verify her existence. Relying on the internet to try to judge her roles in silent films made in the Philippines 75 years ago is not really appropriate, especially since it is claimed she "co-starred" in one of the films.  There is an unsourced entry on the Tagalog Wikipedia as well. Definitely not a hoax and an internet search is not sufficient to judge her notability. Default if we are unsure if something is notable but it is verifiable is to keep, so keep.Drawn Some (talk) 02:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I only saw passing mentions (e.g. ). I agree that that may not be a fair judge, but evidence of WP:N is still lacking. JJL (talk) 02:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * More information: On page 18-19 of this, it says in 1929 7 Filipino films were made, 11 in 1930, and 24 in 1932, which shows there weren't many Filipino film actors to begin with.  It also includes her name in a list of four actors who could "make  a film a box office certainty".  Those are pretty strong words.  There is this reference: Film in South-East Asia: View from the Region, Edited by David Hanan, SEAPAVAA in association with the Vietnam Film Institute and the National Screen and Sound Archive of Australia, Hanoi, 2001, page 254.


 * Delete per NN. JBsupreme (talk) 07:54, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Included in Readings in Philippine cinema‎ - Page 36. Also here "By 1933, the Philippines could boast of its first female feature film director, Brigida Perez Villaneuva, and a star system had firmly taken hold. Actors like Naty Fernandez, Gregorio Fernandez, Maggie Calloway and Nora Linda could make a film a box office certainty. The first talkies took Manila by storm and the Philipino industry responded, in the absence of the necessary technology to produce talkies themselves, by dubbing silent movies live using stage actors and advertising the results as talkies. The first real talkie was produced in 1932" Philippines sectionChildofMidnight (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep That quote found by CoM is adequate for showing notability. DGG (talk) 01:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions.  —Bluemask (talk) 02:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  -- decltype (talk) 18:24, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete While I do agree that the quotes uncovered are promising, I'm worried a bit about WP:V here. I think everything that we have might be better suited elsewhere (I admit I don't know where) rather than a stand alone article on a person who is potentially living. Willing to change my mind if some proper sourcing is added, however, as some of the material that has been uncovered does seem to push her into meeting WP:ENTERTAINER. Cheers, CP 22:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - The sources found thus far are indicative of notability. I don't doubt that additional referencing for a silent film star of the Phillipines will not be an easy task, but that's not a reason for deletion. - Whpq (talk) 18:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
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