Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magic wheel generator

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 14:11, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Magic wheel generator
Describes a perpetual motion device that violates the laws of physics, probably spam. "The magic wheel generator is a free energy device in the sense that the electricity is zero cost ($0), except for the cost of buying the device." Delete Ultramarine 12:38, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The author added after the Vfd started "The magic wheel generator is not a perpetual motion machine. Eventually, the magnets lose their magnetism, and the wheel slows down. However, this takes over a hundred years to happen. The magnetism can be renewed by shocking the magnets with electricity. Also, it is not solid state. Because of it's moving part, it can break down." The usual perpetual motion machine claims of energy at zero cost still remain with statements like " If every home has private magic wheel generators in them, then no one would have to pay electric bills and home heating bills." Ultramarine 13:04, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

This article is rubbish. Nothing like this could exist, as indicated by the article History of perpetual motion machines - and I quote: The lead allegedly blocked attraction as each magnet passes by it, so the wheel would keep moving for a time before friction stopped it. How could energy be got from such a 'magic wheel'? It couldn't. The author has spent too much time reading his socialist hippy propoganda magazine, 'The Free-Energy Device Handbook'. Almost a speedy, i vote with a strong delete. THE KING 12:35, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only one (unrelated) hit on Google. --Lee Hunter 13:10, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

I've seen such a machine in Science class years ago and it didn't work then, so it won't now. Besides, if free energy is possible, wouldn't universities and corporations and loads of other people use it by now? Mgm|(talk) 14:57, May 8, 2005 (UTC) delete, unless proof of notability either in reality or science-fiction is provided. dab (&#5839;) 17:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. This article is completely incorrect. Because of the lack of gravity in space, this wheel would stop moving in the right direction. And the magnets would make the wheel stop moving once they were located across their opposite pole. Even changing the polarization of the electric magnet in this thing wouldn't make the wheel move further.
 * AFAIK, the U.S. Patent Office no longer bothers even examining patents for perpetual motion machines since they (all together now) violate basic laws of physics. Merge what little useful info is in this and Redirect to Magic wheel.  Soundguy99 18:33, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but clarify. While it clearly does not work as a real-world item, it does have some basis in fiction and legend. If the article is cleaned up, it would then be worthy of mention. --Mitsukai 20:00, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this nonsense. Any mention in fiction or legend is better addressed at Magic wheel. --Tabor 20:27, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, redirect to magic wheel. Radiant_* 12:22, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but clean up. Not working is not a valid deletion criterion, else we'd have to delete all articles on religions.  The article as it stands has too high a density of nonsense, but a more historical rather than promotional approach could make this an interesting article. --Zero 12:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Why cannot any historical or fictional content, if any, be in the magic wheel article? Why must there be two articles? Ultramarine 15:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with magic wheel, at least in the interim. OTOH, that article needs looked at; the source given is "Source : The Free-Energy Device Handbook," which sounds to me like a source for moonshine.  Other sources as to its historicity and notability would be appreciated. -- Smerdis of Tlön 18:40, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't a perpetual motion machine that has recieved widespread notability. --Carnildo 19:05, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * delete. Total nonsense: the device simply does not (and can not) exist.  Show me a working prototype and I'll reconsider.  Until then, this page is nothing more than vanity: advertising for a crank.
 * Delete; utterly silly - seems like a prank - Ec5618 20:33, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - hoax - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  22:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - pseudoscience at best. Whig 07:21, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Nonsense, delete --nixie 07:22, 13 May 2005 (UTC)


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