Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magnetic Tower of Hanoi


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The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Magnetic Tower of Hanoi

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The current references are all self published websites or papers written by one of the main authors of this article. I can not find any independent reliable sources that discuss this variation of the game. I do not see anything that establishes that this is a notable variation of the game. GB fan 12:58, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 13:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. While the article appears to have been heavily edited by the author of most of its sources, a significant amount of the article was created and edited by another user who, based on assuming good faith, is independent of the sources and the article. Moreover, while the sources may have been written by an editor of the article, that user did not add them to the article. They were cited by the creator of the article. The source is from a reliable and established publication (and is not "self published" by the user editing the article). There is also no absolute prohibition against an author of a reliable source from editing an article so long as it conforms to WP:NPOV. The article is suitably NPOV (although it could stand some cleanup), so there should be no real concern. Agent 86 (talk) 19:07, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Davidm0508 (Oct. 22, 2011): A new reference has been added from 1989. Thus, there are now three separate and different sources to variations of the MToH. Two of these sources (1 and 3) are published, and thus assumed reliable. Furthermore, the MToH is a self contained, stand-alone and unique system of puzzles with a full and detailed mathematical analysis. Thus, I think it merits a separate article. — Davidm0508 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Uri Levy:

Reference number 2 went to Mathematician Fred Lunnon who is a tower variations expert:

1.	"NEW VARIATIONS ON THE TOWER OF HANOI", PAUL K. STOCKMEYER AND FRED LUNNON, http://www.cs.wm.edu/~pkstoc/greece.pdf.

2.	Hanoi Variations, Fred Lunnon, Workshop on the Tower of Hanoi and Related Problems September 18 - September 22, 2005 Maribor, Slovenia, http://164.8.24.171/toh2005/abstracts.htm.

Making a count of three independent reliable references.

Also - What appears to be "heavy editing" on my part is actually a small set of very minor changes. My major editing was the addition of three 1984 images to the Origin section. I think they have encyclopedic value.

Uri-Levy (talk) 23:25, 22 October 2011 (UTC) — Uri-Levy (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Delete. A non-notable variant of the puzzle, never mind the COI concerns and that it largely seems the work of SPAs.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 02:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * delete/merge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaijin42 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 28 October 2011‎


 * Delete. I see too many single-purpose and conflict-of-interest accounts here, and too little (if any) third party coverage as required by WP:N.  Sandstein   07:29, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
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