Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magoo (rapper)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Timbaland & Magoo. and protect the redirect JohnCD (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Magoo (rapper)

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I've tried to avoid this AfD, but can't seem to. The artist fails WP:MUSICBIO on his own. He did enjoy some success with Timbaland & Magoo. But all coverage I saw was never about him, it was either the much more notable Timbaland or about the duet. So far, he's failed to chart solo and failed to get significant amounts of coverage from reliable third party sources (except about the duet). I redirected the term (per WP:BEFORE) to the article about Timbaland and Magoo, but certain fans have kept removing the redirect. I explained to the fans on the talk page why, how it was preserving the term for later when he does become notable etc. and how to improve the article. Instead, it has gotten worse. So here we are. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I am not entirely sure what the policy is in this case, but Niteshift makes a good argument for deletion on pragmatic grounds. That the main editor (who seems to have an IP or two running after them) of the article said, on the talkpage, "i have no idea what you mean by unsourced," that is telling. If the subject is not notable by hisself, and if a redirect keeps getting turned into an unsourced BLP, then deletion seems to be the best anwer. Drmies (talk) 16:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Just for those who haven't been involved, I explained that allexperts.com, amazon.com and answers.com aren't going to pass WP:RS, but those are the sort of "sources" the editor insists on using. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. This article appears to be a copyright violation from NNDB.com, which suggests that at least the current content needs to be gotten rid of. (Note that other non-copyvio versions have existed in the article's history.) The rap duo he is one of the named members of is notable, so at a minimum a redirect to Timbaland & Magoo should be left here. I haven't been able to find a significant amount of biographical information about Magoo personally, though, so I can't say that it is necessary for him to have a separate article at this time. As sources for Magoo's biography are found, they can be added to the Timbaland & Magoo article until there is enough content there to warrant splitting it out to a separate article about Magoo alone. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect: to Timbaland & Magoo, doesn't seem notable enough to warrant his own article. I have restored article to a good version. Mattg82 (talk) 23:08, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - if the redirect is useful but the article inappropriate, another possible solution would be to protect the redirect fully and indefinitely. Lady  of  Shalott  04:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Protection sounds fair. If he ever became notable enough, it could be easily removed.Niteshift36 (talk) 04:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't we let the afd run its course? We can let that be an open possibility for the discussion. Lady  of  Shalott  04:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Wasn't suggesting otherwise, just giving my view. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Just leave the magoo page the way it is and let nature take its course —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.240.121.29 (talk) 12:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC) — 209.240.121.29 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * This is nature taking its course. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * So then the IP editor above decided to remove the deletion template....twice. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pcap ping  23:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect - All of the material that I can find is in relation to Timbaland and Magoo. With this article being and unsourced BLP and potentially a copyright violation, merging would not be appropriate.  Development of a sourced biography at Timbaland and Magoo would make sense. -- Whpq (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect and protect. Just an also-ran sidekick rapper with no real success in his own right. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 17:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.