Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magshimey Herut


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  12:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Magshimey Herut

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An obscure political group with an impressive range of maintenance tags and a single about us link to its own website as sourcing (at the time of nomination). Barely a scrap of a mention to be found online about the group, with the only mentions seeming to be trivial in the extreme. Notably no Hebrew page exists for it. Not notable and fails WP:CORP by a long shot. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Israel. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * NB: The page has now changed dramatically since nomination. The level of sourcing is still not fantastic (the Jerusalem Post piece, for example, appears to be a fairly unedited press release that has just been slapped up by an editorial grunt; the WJW piece is the most substantial), but I am now somewhat on the fence. Iskandar323 (talk) 08:22, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * After cursory google search, group appears to be the youth organization grown out of Herut. Not saying the group is particularly impactful, but on its origination grounds alone (and affiliated politicians and defunct political party) seems enough to pass muster. Political party is defunct, but seems to have transitioned to a still-active general advocacy movement.
 * That said, page reads like an ad and needs to be cleaned up.
 * Mistamystery (talk) 23:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If it is firmly linkable to that movement, might it make sense to merge it to that page? Both are currently very short. The present state of affairs, with the connection only tangentially alluded to in the see also section, definitely seems sup-optimal if this is the case. It would represent a gaping gap in the history here, and a missing element on the other page. And if they were linked in a parent-child manner, based on how little material there is here to summarize, it might be more duplicative than beneficial to have it hosted on two pages. Iskandar323 (talk) 03:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 08:16, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Only one of the references is more than just a passing mention of the group. Responding to Mistamystery's comments, this group did not grow out of Herut (which had been defunct for over a decade before this group was founded) – it would have been linked to the modern Herut – The National Movement, which was never a major political force. This article was one of several created as an obvious promotional attempt in around 2006 (the others being Yehuda HaKohen, Karma Feinstein-Cohen and Zionist Freedom Alliance (which somehow also still exists). Number   5  7  09:58, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Number 57: FYI, Mista's post actually linked to the movement, just piped from plain Herut in the post. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:09, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, fair enough. Not sure why being a youth movement of such a minor party would bring any level of notability (and anyway, WP:NOTINHERITED applies). Number   5  7  10:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Only seems one active editor who cares to keep this page alive. I pinged his talk page and will see if he has anything worthwhile to say pertaining to keeping this. Mistamystery (talk) 05:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: Lack of significant coverage. What's used in the article does appear to be a PR piece, this is all I could find and it's trivial coverage . Oaktree b (talk) 12:57, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: Significant coverage is lacking. Only a couple of the sources directly reference the organisation, but are trivial, routine, re-written press release level coverage of a non-notable organisation. Macktheknifeau (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.