Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maha el-Samnah


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The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 04:10, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Maha el-Samnah

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Borderline notability that i think does not fulfill WP:BIO, not much information that isn't already in Khadr family or would belong there. IQinn (talk) 09:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. This article needs a great deal of pruning because it has clearly been written either by the individual or a close associate. The value of a portrait photograph of an individual wearing a veil is also questionable. However, I think that there was enough of a furore in the Canadian media for this individual to meet WP:GNG.  Nipson anomhmata   (Talk) 15:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into Khadr family. Some other individual members of the Khadr family are known in their own right because of press they've gotten and deserve their own articles.  In this category I would include namely Ahmed Said Khadr, Abdurahman Khadr, and Omar Khadr.  However, this doesn't apply to lesser-known members of the entire family.  I appreciate that Maha el-Samnah is well-known for that CBC interview, but I don't think most people who know that video know her by name: she is simply considered as the family matriarch.  In my opinion, Maha el-Samnah, Abdulkareem Khadr, and Zaynab Khadr should all be merged into Khadr family. --Saforrest (talk) 16:40, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * IMO it would be best to structure Khadr family so it talked about what all the family members had in common, and then devoted limited coverage to each of the family members who are notable in and of themselves -- just enough to set the context. Most of the material specific to the notable individuals should be in their articles.  Which of the family members aren't notable?  IMO Maha Elsamnah's parents, her younger daughter, the son who died when a toddler and her grandchild aren't notable.  Geo Swan (talk) 16:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep -- I don't know why it wasn't in the article, but Maha el-Samnah, with her young children in tow, buttonholed Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien when he was on an official visit to Pakistan, in January 1996. She appealed to Chretien on behalf of her husband, who the Pakistanis had held, for months, in extrajudicial detention.  Maha made the evening news here in Canada for several days in a row.  Geo Swan (talk) 08:03, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Her actions get her in the news on multiple occasions over the years. She was featured in a documentary which got reviewed/commented on throughout the news media it seems, which by current Wikipedia standards makes it notable.  Does being the head of a family like that count as royalty or something?  How important is this?   D r e a m Focus  08:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per significant coverage over several years. Seems notable to me. Failing that, a merge per Saforrest would make sense as well. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.