Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahazamili


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Merge and Redirect. There is no consensus for deletion but a general agreement that National Islamic Front of Afghanistan is the preferred article name. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 10:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Mahazamili

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Fails basic standards for sourcing and notability like WP:GNG. IQinn (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment the creator of the article just added one source of the National Islamic Front of Afghanistan to the article and than proposed a merge it with National Islamic Front of Afghanistan. As it now has become an article about National Islamic Front of Afghanistan it can be merged with National Islamic Front of Afghanistan. IQinn (talk) 05:15, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to National Islamic Front of Afghanistan per IQinn.  bahamut0013  words deeds 12:43, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support merge/redirect to National Islamic Front of Afghanistan. Several serious and/or academic publications confirm the fact that this is the correct name for this party. See for example Olivier Roy Islam and resistance in Afghanistan(Cambridge university press, 1990) page 269; Barnett Rubin, The fragmentation of Afghanistan(Yale university Press, 1995), page 203; or Ali Ahmad jalali & Lester Grau Afghan guerilla warfare (MBI, 2001) page 411. Per these publications, not to mention WP:English, National Islamic Front of Afghanistan is the correct form in the english language. As for "Mahazamili" it is a rarely (if ever) used conglomeration of transliterated words, whose meaning seems to have escaped the person, or persons who created it. --Raoulduke47 (talk) 12:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Good job Support merge to National Islamic Front of Afghanistan per Raoulduke4. - IQinn (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I regard the correct name of the article as a separate issue. The article should be kept first, and the best name chosen then.  The article at Mahazamili is the older article.  And while National Islamic Front of Afghanistan had no references, Mahazamili, did, at the time of nomination, and has more now.  Geo Swan (talk) 13:58, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the name is a separate issue. If Mahazamili is the correct name then the article should be kept, if it isn't then it should be deleted, therefore the name issue is relevant to this Afd. The argument over the relative age of the two articles is decidedly weird: seniority is hardly an important issue. As to the number of sources which you have been hastily collecting in order to obstruct this Afd, they do not weigh on the naming problem. This is especially true as none of your three sources refer to "Mahazamili", but use different forms(including National Islamic Front). I see nothing in your comments that might overrule WP:English, and the majority of sources which I have found after a quick search(to which I could add a couple more) use "National Islamic Front of Afghanistan". As for google, the count is: for "National Islamic Front of Afghanistan" 19100 hits, and for Mahazamili 141 hits. --Raoulduke47 (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep -- As I understand it, nominators are supposed to base their nominations on the notability of the topic and are expected to confirm that the topic of an article isn't notable, prior to making the nomination.  This nomination is one of dozens of similar nomination of material I started, that this nominator and a confederate have made, that are currently all open at once.  Our nominator, and their confederate, seem to have skipped the step of checking the notability of the topics, prior to making any' of these nominations.  Although both contributors are very experienced, I am not challenging their basic good faith, as good faith contributors can get tunnel vision, and slip into lapses from policy, without realizing it.  Nevertheless the large number of nominations in this flood of nominations are far too many to expect anyone to effectively respond to, and it gives the appearance of WP:WikiBullying.  Geo Swan (talk) 14:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Your accusations are baseless. Their seems to be a strong pattern - in almost all Afd/Mfd or other deletion discussion concerning one of your numerous articles over many years the nominator got attacked. (Could be dozens) Please stop your WP:OWNERSHIP behavior - we are all here to improve content and pleeaase never again attack somebody who nominate one of the articles that you wrote. Thank you. IQinn (talk) 14:29, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to National Islamic Front of Afghanistan per IQinn. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. Merge and Redirect to National Islamic Front of Afghanistan per IQinn's suggestion.--Yachtsman1 (talk) 07:08, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.