Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahler Symphony No. 4 (Claudio Abbado 1978 recording)


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The result was keep. Meets WP:NALBUM, and the wikiproject guidance cited in the nomination has recently been withdrawn. RL0919 (talk) 01:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Mahler Symphony No. 4 (Claudio Abbado 1978 recording)

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Fails all of the criteria of WP:WikiProject Classical music/Guidelines. -- Softlavender (talk) 20:32, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:34, 18 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable recording.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. note that it also fails WP:NALBUM and WP:COPYVIO. The main bulk of the article consists of long paraphrases of critics reviews - these are certainly violations of copyright.Smerus (talk) 06:56, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * copyvio concerns can be removed, this has happened. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:08, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment, although technically meeting no. 1 of WP:NALBUM - "subject of multiple [ie. 2 or more], non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it." as article (now after possible copyvio being removed) lists reviews by Gramophone and Sound & Vision, past consensus amongst classical album wikieditors appears to require more. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NALBUM. The article's COPYVIO issues have now been addressed - brief review excerpts will be supplied in due course. Abbado is generally regarded as one of the most important of Mahler conductors.Niggle1892 (talk) 16:48, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:NALBUM criteria 1. The album was reviewed in The New York Times (see here), and in Gramophone (see here). Additional offline reviews can be found in High Fidelity, Volume 29, Issues 1-6, 1979, "Abbado's Revelatory Mahler" by Abram Chipman; High Performance Review, 1984, Volumes 3-4, Page 124; and The New Records, 1978, Volume 46, Issue 9, Page 3.4meter4 (talk) 21:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rollidan (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2019 (UTC) Comment Please see also Lewis M. Smoley's Gustav Mahler Symphonies, 1996, p. 81; Lewis M. Smoley's The Symphonies of Gustav Mahler, 1986, p. 50; Fanfare, Vol. 8, Issue 5, 1985, p. 160; Gramophone Classical Good CD Guide 1998, 1997, p. 530; Gramophone Classical Good CD Guide 2002, 2001, p. 555; Gramophone Classical Good CD Guide 2003, 2002, p. 570; The Penguin Guide to Recorded Music, 2008, p. 744; Records in Review, 1980, p. 187; High Fidelity/Musical America, Vol. 30, Issue 1, 1980, p. 73; Hi-Fi News & Record Review, Vol. 26, Issues 7-12, 1981, p. 67; The Penguin Cassette Guide, 1979, p. 317.Niggle1892 (talk) 23:24, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, shows to easily meets WP:NALBUM with the more reviews listed above. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


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