Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maia (verification language)


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The result was delete. Sourcing seems quite well.explored and is below the bar. If someone wants to pursue draftifying or a merge somewhere please drop me a line Spartaz Humbug! 21:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Maia (verification language)

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No evidence of notability as required by WP:GNG. Guy Macon (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Guy Macon (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Guy Macon (talk) 10:21, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment I can see some sources, but nothing that looks like it would unambiguously clear GNG. Mccapra (talk) 10:27, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Since I wrote the article: it's a stub, with less than 500 words, including lists. If you feel that's too much, I can take some out, but it appears to be within the limits at WP:STUBDEF. I used the guidelines at WP:N, which state (among other things) that "an article may be a stub even though many sources exist, but simply have not been included yet". I wrote the stub because I'm an engineer and use both hardware description and verification languages daily, and a stub seemed appropriate: it will hopefully encourage others (who known more) to expand on it, with sources. We should also consider that over-zealously enforcing notability guidelines on stubs could simply ensure that no stubs are ever written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EML101 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Just name a few sources that establish WP:GNG here, and you can take as long as you wish to add them to the stub. --Guy Macon (talk) 15:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Stubs are fine if they’re sourced. WP:STUBDEF emphasises the importance of sources and says ‘If a stub has little verifiable information, or if its subject has no apparent notability, it may be deleted or be merged into another relevant article.’ A company or productise own website can’t be used as a source to demonstrate notability. Mccapra (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * MAIA: a framework for networks on chip generation and verification 2005 (ACM) seems to be the main paper on the framework.
 * Maia EDA Launches New Automated Verification Tool on BusinessWire.
 * Maia EDA readies functional verification tool on EE Times, assume that's short for Electrical Engineering.


 * There doesn't seem to be much else. I'd say notability was at best marginal. Why not merge to Hardware verification language and turn that into a decent article, the topic there is certainly notable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The EE Times and businesswire refs are copies of a press release originally published on PR Newswire. The same press release was published on other sites and contains the usual promotional language.


 * The reference to ASP-DAC '05: Proceedings of the 2005 Asia and South Pacific Design Automation Conference January 2005 Pages 49–52 at https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1120725.1120741 is legit. Not quite enough to show notability, though. Related: [ http://maia-eda.net/history ]. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:30, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


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