Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maila Carboni


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The result was delete. Seems clear that despite a lot of references there is very little significant coverage. Fenix down (talk) 13:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Maila Carboni

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I can't see any indication of passing WP:NFOOTBALL and the sources are not sufficient for WP:GNG, mainly because a lot of them cannot be classed as independent sources or as significant coverage of Carboni. Spiderone 21:50, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 21:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Do not delete there is a long list of players with similar credentials from the same division as well as present and past team mates who have a wikipedia page User:Gio230564 7:45 AM, December 22nd — Preceding undated comment added 12:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Please show me at least two sources that show coverage that would meet criteria listed at WP:GNG. Also see WP:NOTLINKEDIN; the entire page is written in a way to promote the player. Wikipedia is not appropriate for this at all. I have removed some of this material. Spiderone  15:04, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

here is a link to the wikipedia page for the soccer team which contains a long list of players who have a wikipedia page. The page has been edited and any reference/comment that wasn't factual has been removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollon_Ladies_F.C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gio230564 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Those players all have international caps so they meet WP:NFOOTBALL. There is still not one reliable news source showing significant coverage of this player Spiderone  18:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

I apologize and ask this to understand better. There are pages dedicated to men players and those players do play in top divisions but have no international caps with their national teams. Do they meet the criteria because they are men? Or is it because the men's national leagues are more important than the women's? I am simply trying to understand and not being argumentative; from what I am understanding a player who plays in a top league in a country who has no National team caps meets the criteria, however, a woman who plays in a top league who has no national caps does not. Furthermore, a number of the players in the wikipedia page I referred to, are listed in their national squads but have not set foot on the field. Second, I have referenced a number of times Ginekio.com, which is a Cyprus based website that covers their Women's soccer league; it is a large site containing close and detailed coverage of their league. This isn't a reliable source? I have referenced multiple articles from a renowned Canadian university, this is also not reliable? Lastly, there are references linked to official provincial associations based in Canada, which are also not reliable sources? Again, simply trying to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gio230564 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * NFOOTBALL is linked to WP:FPL. There are some women's leagues listed as fully professional but most currently are not. The second tier in Italy and the Cypriot league are definitely not fully pro. Players can still be notable even in semi-pro leagues but they must meet WP:GNG. Good examples are Sara Mérida, Sammie Wood and Cristina Pizarro. All fail NFOOTBALL but meet the biographical notability because they have multiple articles from different major publications covering them in depth. Also note that the coverage is more than just routine, run-of-the-mill stuff like "x signs new contract" "y FC signs x for £1m" etc. It's stuff that you can build a biography from. If you remove all of the sources where Carboni is only mentioned once then there really isn't much left. She also doesn't pass WP:COLLATH, in my view. The best articles are this and this but both are painfully brief. Spiderone  15:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment - unfortunately, I think that this is a classic case of WP:REFBOMB. The only slightly decent coverage is all from Ginekio and even most of that coverage is entirely run-of-the-mill. Note that plenty of references don't even mention her once. Spiderone  13:28, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


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