Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maini Sorri


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Maini Sorri

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Not notable. Has got a little local interest coverage in Uppsala but nothing significant. Outside that she lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Article claims lot's of charting but none are good charts. Releases are not on "important" label. Akademia Music Awards are not major, they are a pay for play award farm. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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 * Weak keep: Charting in Europe is not insignificant. Just because it's not an American or UK label or chart does not invalidate notability, appears to have multiple, adequate sources.   Montanabw (talk)  04:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Montanabw. For the first part, Are any of the claimed charts useable? For the second, thanks for bringing your accusations of cultural bias into it, that's totally irrelevant. The third, which sources? duffbeerforme (talk) 07:57, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You can't use English-language charts to determine the notability of individuals within nations where English is not the first language; they are useful for international notability, but national notability and notability within non-English speaking nations is what we are looking at. Montanabw (talk)  00:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Montanabw. Who said anything about English-language charts? Why are you saying we can't use something that no-one has mentioned? Building a strawman? WP:GOODCHARTS includes the likes of Oricon and Gaon. Don't know what those funny symbols are but they sure don't look like English to me. More significantly it also includes Sverigetopplistan, the Swedish national record chart., not English either, unsurprisingly its Swedish. Using the Sök on the page for Sorri comes up with "Inga träffar för sökkriterie: maini sorri." duffbeerforme (talk) 10:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:57, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * keep - she is a singer. Her songs have charted. WP:Musicbio.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:18, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: I'm inclined to think that DigiListan is a valid enough chart to count for musician-specific notability (we consider plenty of other artists notable whose charting is primarily or entirely from downloads rather than traditional sales of pieces of plastic that can be used to play back music) but since that's apparently a contentious issue, let's revisit the general notability guideline instead. Nothing in WP:N suggests that local sources cannot be used to establish notability; so we have multiple independent secondary sources that have devoted significant coverage to Sorri and her music cited in the article. That's all that's required to establish a subject's notability. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 01:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I'll add that WP:GOODCHARTS (cited above) specifically says "Many reliable charts are not included on this list," so the fact that the charts cited in the article aren't listed there doesn't necessarily mean they're not good charts. — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 00:58, 31 October 2015 (UTC)


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