Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mairbek Taisumov


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. J04n(talk page) 11:39, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Mairbek Taisumov

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Fails WP:NMMA with no top tier fights and all coverage appears to be routine sports reporting.Mdtemp (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment: This AfD is transcluded to the April 29 log. Did you mean to transclude it to the April 30th log? Ping me if you want a hand. czar   &middot;   &middot;  23:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - Despite knowing how contentious MMA discussions are, here we go.....First, WP:MMANOT is WEAK in itself. While it does establish some guidelines, they are not defined as well as they should be as other guidelines such as WP:BAND or WP:AUTHOR. Saying that he doesn't have any top tier fights is NOT a reason to delete the article. In fact, he fights for a notable organization and has won numerous boughts (looks like he has a decent record) which would qualify him under MMA. However, I cleared the MMA cloud away from head for a moment to look at the basics which is (WP:GNG). Although he would qualify under different criteria of WP:MMANOT, he still has not received significant coverage from WP:RS which is the first hurdle he needs to get over. All the press I see is passing mentions, fight records, and recaps or announcements of fights. Based on WP:GNG alone, my opinion would be delete. If additional WP:RS can be found, that is a different story. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 15:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I'm a little confused. Mdtemp used WP:NMMA with is the MMA notability guideline at Notability (sports).  That has only 2 criteria and they're quite objective--1. at least 3 fights for a top tier MMA organization (defined at WP:MMATIER and 2. have fought for the highest title of a top tier organization.  Which of these do you claim he meets? Papaursa (talk) 23:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't be sorry, getting confused happens to everyone now and again. :) If you read above, you will see that I am saying "IF" they received more coverage. The issue with the guidelines is that they do not define clearly enough what constitutes notability (is it ALL of the criteria, some, at least one, etc.? Should have a little more meat to be clearer). I see many MMA articles recommended for deletion based on them not having a top tier fight. Having a top tier fight has NOTHING to do with notability until they FIRST pass WP:GNG. As stated above (maybe I could have been a little clearer for you), they would pass IF they received significant coverage from WP:RS. As it stands, he falls short of such coverage and fails notability. I'm saying the same thing you are, except sticking in my opinion about the guidelines. Glad to talk more on my talk page if you want so I stop cluttering this AfD up with opinion. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 12:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Subject clearly fails WP:NMMA and I agree with the previous editors who say he doesn't meet WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 23:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NMMA. LlamaAl (talk) 01:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NMMA. NodachiFury (talk) 21:11, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
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