Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major League Baseball All-Star Game Records


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. --Sam Blanning(talk) 18:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Major League Baseball All-Star Game Records
Article is just a list of facts. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. | Mr. Darcy talk 02:37, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. — Mets 501 (talk) 02:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --דניאל - Danie lroc ks123 contribs  Count 03:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Neutral So tempting to keep...... I can't bring myself to oppose- It's so useful. AdamBiswanger1 04:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * keep, keep, keep.  Sports record holders are eminently notable and verifiable.  Notability and verifiability are discriminate criteria for inclusion, not indiscriminate.  List articles are important enough to merit their own Wikipedia Guidelines.  List articles are an important part of WikiPedia structure.  Merely being a list is not justification for deletion.  Possible merge with Major League Baseball All-Star Game, but that discussion should not happen here.  Tag article for a merge, bring up point at the on the relevent talk pages, and let people know your opinion at WikiProject Baseball.  --Jayron32 04:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep They're baseball stats.  Not indiscriminate information.--MonkBirdDuke 05:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep but requires cleanup. An opening statement of what the list is about, and the year the single game records were achieved would be nice. Resolute 06:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep expand and add more prose.  Noble eagle  [TALK] [C] 08:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge into Major League Baseball All-Star Game. These are not major records of the sport, they're just records of one exhibition game a year.  Yes, the game gets lots of press coverage, and occasionally an "All-Star Game record" will be mentioned, which is why I'm not voting delete per Mr Darcy.  The list of records is not significant enough for its own article, and belongs with its topic.  If that article is too long it should be trimmed rather than splitting off its less important parts into separate articles.  Barno 12:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I see the parent article contains hundreds of words on "2008 All-Star Game and beyond". WP:NOT a crystal ball and most of that section isn't encyclopedic.  Cut the fluff, if size is a reason the list of records was separated.  Barno 12:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I also think it should be merged, as Barno suggests. PJM 14:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Easily verifiable (some sources would be nice, though) and notable. A merge might be in order, but that's not a discussion for this page. SliceNYC 15:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Why not? Per the AfD page's introduction:  "Articles listed here are debated for up to five days, after which the deletion process proceeds based on Wikipedia community consensus. The page is then either kept, merged and/or redirected, transwikied (moved to another Wikimedia project, such as Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wiktionary, or another language's Wikipedia—please note that it cannot be transwikied to WikiTravel [1] or Wikinews), renamed/moved to another title, userfied to the creator's user page or user subpage, or deleted per the deletion policy."  Barno 17:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Votes to merge are OK here. Discussions of the nature of the merge are not.  If it is decided to merge, how and why that is to be done are carried out elsewhere. --Jayron32 18:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My response would have been what Jayron wrote. SliceNYC 22:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * keep; the main article of Major League Baseball All-Star Game is already too big to add this information to it. Vectro 18:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That's only an anti-merge argument. The reality is that all of the information on this page is available here, and Major League Baseball All-Star Game could then include a link to that site. | Mr. Darcy talk 22:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Excellent! You found a source!  That proved verifiability.  One more reason to keep. --Jayron32 03:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Verifiability was never in question here - you won't find a sport with better statistical records than baseball. The point is that this information is easily available elsewhere, and simply reproducing that content here is a violation of WP:NOT. If the article could be expanded to include something more than just a list of stats, I'd see the logic behind keeping it, but I don't see how that is possible. | Mr. Darcy talk 03:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok. Fair enough arguement.  But the information is valid for inclusion in wikipedia.  Where do you propose it go?  I already noted that a merge with the main article may be in order.  Do you have a better place for it, or are you contesting that WikiPedia not include such information at all? --Jayron32 03:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm arguing in favor of deletion. The article can't stand as is, nor is it ever likely to become a free-standing article rather than a list of numbers, leaving deletion or merge as the options. The All-Star Game is a meaningless exhibition, one not taken even a little bit seriously by most of the players (witness all the defections from the announced rosters each year), and I don't see how information like most All-Star Game balks (2) or triples (also 2) is encyclopedic. I'll respect the consensus, of course, but if we're not deleting, let's trim this to the major stats before a merge with Major League Baseball All-Star Game. | Mr. Darcy talk 04:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep per Vectro. --- RockMFR 22:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. --badlydrawnjeff talk 10:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination.--Anthony.bradbury 14:06, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.