Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makam Habib Noh


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The result was   keep, with no prejudice against moving the article to Habib Noh or further editorial development. Mojo Hand (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Makam Habib Noh

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No sources to support the notability of this mausoleum. 1292simon (talk) 02:05, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep The Singapore Infopedia has entries about the mausoleum and Habib Noh himself. NewspaperSG has 78 results for "Makam Habib Noh" and 23 results for "Keramat Habib Noh" (most are in Malay). A Google Books search finds 16 results for "Keramat Habib Noh". Note that the mausoleum is part of the Haji Muhammad Salleh Mosque, so perhaps there should be an article about the mosque that also covers the mausoleum. --Hildanknight (talk) 06:57, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that the mosque and the makam warrant separate articles. Philg88 ♦talk 16:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep There are a number of reliably sourced references out there. I will work on this article over the next couple of days to bring it up to scratch. Philg88 ♦talk 16:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I have rewritten the article with references. Once this AfD is over it may be sensible to create a new article on Habib Noh with the makam as a subsection rather than the other way around as it is now - there are more reliable sources out there and those in Malay have been ignored so far. This article can then be redirected to the new one. Philg88 ♦talk 07:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment - Thanks to Philg88's efforts, there are now some good references for Habib Noh (the person). I still believe notability for the mausoleum has not been established. Therefore, as per Philg88's suggestion, I believe that this article should be renamed Habib Noh and the mausoleum become a subsection of it. 1292simon (talk) 08:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 09:56, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, "at Makam Habib Noh, the most popular and venerated keramat in Singapore." comes up at Google Books, http://books.google.com/books?id=fvZuAAAAMAAJ p. 30 and "In Singapore there are several ke- ramats where the Baweanese pay homage; the most popular are the Makam Habib Noh at Tanjong Pagar..." http://books.google.com/books?id=ZvgcAQAAMAAJ p. 53 --Soman (talk) 12:37, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


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