Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makmende


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure)  C T J F 8 3  chat 17:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Makmende

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Non-notable lyric from a song? It's hard to tell just what it is. I've tried a db, I've tried a redirect to the band article, but I keep getting reverted. It was also PRODded by another editor, but the prod tag removed by an SPA with no other edits. No reliable sources, and no claims of notability. Woogee (talk) 23:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. There's an article by the WSJ about Makmende, so the argument "no reliable sources" is invalid. The WSJ's article also clearly underscores the phenomenon's claim of notability. --Simon Columbus (talk) 03:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I removed the redirect to the band and added another reference, one which should be "reliable".  It is a linguistic site that has been referenced in Wikipedia before. That combined with the WSJ article should give it enough strength to stand as its own article.  Categories were also added, Kenya Culture and Names by Culture,  both of which should apply here.  What more is needed? I'm confused. -- Rob Rooker(talk) 08:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons that the above have noted, this is a topic of significance because it has acted as the first kenyan "viral" video. The video is notable independent of its song and so it should merit a separate article as opposed to a merge to the Just a Band article Ajbpearce (talk) 09:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep this character is the first online viral success seen in Kenya and most of Africa at large he is based on a phrase used in the 90's by children to denote someone who was a bully knowledgeable and who regularly tried to impress his peers with the latest Chuck Norris, Kung Fu styles. The phenomenon has just started and has just emerged from the collective psyches of the kenyan generation growing up in the 80's and 90's more references will be added to support him. The problem is that there is hardly any content on African influences in the 90's and 80's which may make it hard to make the connections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicinne (talk • contribs) 11:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think its worth keeping but it needs to be brushed up a bit. Creeddd —Preceding undated comment added 12:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC).
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:22, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - The "speakeasy" is the cultural blog of the WSJ, which I think is reliable. There are also three other sources, which cover 3 decades.  Needs copyediting. Bearian (talk) 21:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - if your changes keep on getting reverted by different editors, that may be an indication that others consider the subject notable. As it stands now, the article certainly makes a couple of clear claims to notability.  –SJ +  22:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:CIV. Woogee (talk) 01:13, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article needs to be expanded, but that's no reason to delete it. Rjhatl (talk) 11:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agreed that article could use a bit of expansion, but beyond being just a cultural reference, it marks a historical point in time for internet in Kenya as well as Africa in general. Deletion of this article would require deletion of countless other articles on Wikipedia.  Just because admins are unfamiliar with the cultural context is not justification for removal.  Primecoordinator 13:22, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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