Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Makoto Koshinaka


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The result was keep per the nominator's withdrawal and no outstanding !votes for deletion. It is felt that the topic has suitable sourcing in the Japanese language even if not in English. My recommendation is that we encourage editors better able to translate and provide such sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Makoto Koshinaka

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Delete, artist is not notable by himself. Sources include IMDB, MTV beta and doesn't indicate that the artist passes notability guidelines. Has been multiple times recreated, if general consensus comes back as not notable can we please salt? It is possible there may be sources in Japanese that may show notability so japanese speaking editors are encouraged to help shed light on anything we are missing. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 20:34, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Dear sirs, the article was deleted because of "copyright violations". Although it didn't DIRECTLY CITE or COPY anything from another cite, it was too similar to another page. So I took the time and effort to edit it, to make it completely independent, and also to create the most complete and documented page on the specific artist. I am sure you won't consider a 10 years career as "not notable". And, as I already indicated, you already have TWO PAGES on Wikipedia English, to which I directly link through this article. Is is definitely not minor, not undocumented and not isolated. It is part of a bigger subject which you are already touching. And, if you wish, I can continue to post on matters related to the subject, enriching even further the encyclopedia. It was my fault in the beginning, for maybe not understanding correctly the guidelines, but I made sure that everything is in order. NB: if you do not personally know an artist, it doesn't men the artist isn't relevant. I'm sure you never read Mihai Eminescu. But he is the national poet of my country, Romania. - which also explains why I am creating this page in English - is it required and necessary, since this is not a local artist I am referring to - I deeply regret the troubles cause and I think you for keeping an open mind and a positive attitude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felixuca (talk • contribs) 20:41, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Finding sources: http://www.mimu-net.net/news.php?newsid=1142 http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/japanese-actor-makoto-koshinaka-arrives-for-the-red-carpet-news-photo/83020662?esource=life_license http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,4418147,00.html http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000077740 http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000081731 http://natalie.mu/music/news/79889 http://www.bsnnews.com/news/index.php?NewsID=15494 http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/ichVUkXitDm/Bangkok+International+Film+Festival+2008+Day/VVj55dJPlHf http://www.realtec.jp/ http://mastermind.seesaa.net/ http://www.thaiticketmajor.com/concert/concert-detail.php?sid=1608&la=en http://fcmen.jp/ http://www.club-zy.com/freepaper.php

I will find others until tomorrow. Just let me know if you see those. We are doing our best. And thank you very, very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felixuca (talk • contribs) 21:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. I am inclined to keep having watched this video - anyone getting that reaction from a chatshow appearance in what to him is a foreign country can safely be regarded as 'notable' I think. I would say that it is very likely that there are sources in Japanese that show notability. --Michig (talk) 20:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep.Found an article about him specifically in The Nation "Makato" The Nation (Thailand), 22 September 2010. I found another 10 articles referring to him playing, and mention him in some way at festivals. He seems to be somewhat important....I'm sure there would be more Japo language sources covering him. Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Sorry Hell (a reference to the name Hell in a Bucket in this scenario) but I am not that profecient in Jap, although I do can comprehend a certain level of Simple Jap, since it incorporates some Chinese. Anyway, I'm sure there are many editors here that understand Jap. Let's ask them. Bonkers The Clown  (Nonsensical Babble) 13:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It does appear sources are available in Japanese and the video link from Michig does show some notability, I'm prepared to withdraw the nom. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 15:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll do a search and see what I can find. I can only read a few Japanese characters, but I had a fairly good translation program on my browser.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:59, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. From what I can see on her page on the Japanese Wikipedia, it looks like she's either appeared on several shows and/or did the theme songs for several dramas. Also, if all else fails then she could be redirected to Lucifer (band). I'm trying to search, but it's a little difficult since there are so many "junk" hits and the Google news archive is being difficult.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 07:07, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

The artist actually starred as an ACTOR in everything listed on this page :) I couldn't use as reference YouTube, as you can imagine. But I saw I can post here materials, for your personal consideration. So, if you need further documentation, watch this video, this video and this video (There are a lot more, for your reference). Redirecting to Lucifer (band) is not really relevant, since it covers only 4 years of the artist's activity (of 13 years). This page is meant to document, aiming to be the most complete information page. In a personal note, if you want the best criteria for notability... I am Romanian. I am just starting to learn Japanese. And I KNOW about this artist, as do many other persons from other countries. If this doesn't count for something... :) Let me know how I can help further. Felixuca (talk) 12:14, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Special thanks to everyone who I see took time to help and improve the layout of this page!Felixuca (talk) 13:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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