Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maksymilian Leonid Dubrawski


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The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Maksymilian Leonid Dubrawski

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I'm a little unclear on this one insofar as notability is concerned. There are what appear to be primary sources, but I'm not turning up secondary sources for this Catholic bishop; the lack thereof tells me that Fr. Dubrawski does not meet WP:BLP. It's granted, I could be wrong, but this is what I'm seeing here. --  Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 16:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete I'm pretty sure that it doesn't meet WP:BLP, and I couldn't find any reliable sources in a quick Google search. yutsi Talk/  Contributions  17:14, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * A quick Google search in the Latin alphabet is certainly insufficient to determine that a Ukrainian bishop is not notable. Of the several potential spellings and variants of the name that I have looked for the most commonly used seems to be
 * I can understand enough Ukrainian to see that nearly all of those results are writing about the bishop of Kamyanets-Podilsky, not anyone else with the same name. Quite a few Polish-language sources (which I can read fluently) are found under the name
 * Other forms of the name that turn up a few sources are
 * , which also catches "Leon Maksymilian Dubrawski" and "Leonard Maksymilian Dubrawski",
 * In all of these searches it needs to be noted that Ukrainian and Polish are inflected languages, and I have only searched for appearances of the name in the nominative case, so I have not found occurences where Dubrawski's name appears in other cases. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * , which also catches "Leon Maksymilian Dubrawski" and "Leonard Maksymilian Dubrawski",
 * In all of these searches it needs to be noted that Ukrainian and Polish are inflected languages, and I have only searched for appearances of the name in the nominative case, so I have not found occurences where Dubrawski's name appears in other cases. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In all of these searches it needs to be noted that Ukrainian and Polish are inflected languages, and I have only searched for appearances of the name in the nominative case, so I have not found occurences where Dubrawski's name appears in other cases. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * In all of these searches it needs to be noted that Ukrainian and Polish are inflected languages, and I have only searched for appearances of the name in the nominative case, so I have not found occurences where Dubrawski's name appears in other cases. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment -- I was going to say "keep" on the basis that Catholic Bishops are inevitably notable. Are there not directories of the Catholic hierarchy that could verify what post he holds?  If the article is verifiable, i.e. if Phil Bridger is right in saying he does hold the post claimed it is certainly a keep.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:51, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The article has a reference to an English-language source confirming that the subject is the bishop of Kamyanets-Podilsky. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:56, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep on the basis of continuing consensus that verified RC bishops (& similarly of other territorial-vased churches) are notable .  DGG ( talk ) 17:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Bishops of major denominations are usually considered to be notable per WP:COMMONSENSE. -- Necrothesp (talk) 18:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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