Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malaysia v Saudi Arabia (2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying)


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The result was merge to 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – AFC Second Round. Consensus is this article doesn't belong, but some good argument that content about the match may well belong at this target. Courcelles (talk) 00:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Malaysia v Saudi Arabia (2018 FIFA World Cup qualifying)

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An abandoned match, regardless of the reason, is not in and of itself a notable occurrence. The match deserves mention in the AFC Second Round qualifying article and could deserve mention in the articles for the national teams of Malaysia and Saudi Arabia, but not a standalone article. — Jkudlick t c s 15:38, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick t c s 15:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Saudi Arabia-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick t c s 15:57, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick t c s 15:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete as no notability; at most redirect (see Articles for deletion/Montenegro v Russia (UEFA Euro 2016 qualifying)). GiantSnowman 17:18, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I would argue that this match is a defining match in Malaysian football. This incident has been deemed by the Malaysian press at least as the most embarassing in Malaysian football. Perhaps the match itself is not notable. This match was abandoned due to Malaysian fans protesting against their Football Association. The protests did not primarily start due to the visiting team gaining a lead in the game. At worst. A mention in the article of Malaysia national team should be made. Not needed in Saudi Arabia's though.--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Also Denmark v Sweden (UEFA Euro 2008 qualifying) was nominated for deletion but was kept due to it being notable in Danish/Scandinavian football although fewer people are involved there. This is the same to Malaysian football at least.--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:10, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not necessarily a valid argument. I agree that mention in 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – AFC Second Round, 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification (AFC), and Malaysia national football team are appropriate, but not a stand-alone article. — Jkudlick t c s 23:38, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Matches being abandoned due to crowd trouble are sadly common and therefore not particularly notable. See also: WP:NOTNEWS. Number   5  7  08:59, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge - there is some useful information here that would benefit some already existing articles, however, there is little to suggest that this match is worthy of its own article. Spiderone  16:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment It would be noteworthy to consider if systemic bias is in play here. Abandoned matches in Asian international football is a much rarer event. Why would a abandoned UEFA match (Denmark v. Sweden) be more important than an Asian World Cup qualifier?--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:13, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect and Merge to 2018 FIFA World Cup qualification – AFC Second Round - no reason the incident/game can't be covered in detail in that article. Nfitz (talk) 22:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
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 * Redirect and Merge I agree with Nfitz, redirect the link and combine the information with the mother article. Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 03:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-notable... JMHamo (talk) 21:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Non-notable and unnecessary. MrWooHoo (talk) 00:19, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


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