Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malik Sulaiman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The consensus is that the references provided and Sulaiman's achievements do make him notable. Jenks24 (talk) 06:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Malik Sulaiman

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I got a spam e-mail from "Malik Sulaiman" and came across this article, which makes me wonder if spammers made it. Because seriously: a whole article about a "Malaysian yachtsman" with an unknown birth date? Con Rev Null (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment What exactly are your reasons for deletion? Are you claiming this is a hoax?  Because he seems to be real.  He gets a lot of coverage in The Star (Malaysia), Malaysia's leading English-language newspaper, he's mentioned on the Olympic Council of Malaysia website, and there's other mentions online. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Nothing Colapeninsula posted, and certainly nothing actually in this article, is particularly noteworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Con Rev Null (talk • contribs) 13:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy close without prejudice for policy-based renomination - the nominator fails to advance any policy-based reason for deletion; "I wondered spammers might have wrote it" is not a reason to send an article to AfD, nor is missing information. It does appear that a valid case for deletion might be able to be made based on WP:SOLDIER and/or WP:NSPORT, but if so a valid AfD needs to be opened on that basis. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not convinced that "nominator fails to advance any policy-based reason for deletion". "Nothing actually in this article, is particularly noteworthy" seems to be a suggestion that the subject is not notable, which certainly is a policy-based reason for deletion. The nomination could have been expressed more clearly, but the way I read it was not that "I wondered spammers might have wrote it" was a reason for deletion, rather that it was just the prompt that led the nominator to look into the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep The article as written does not establish notability. However, the links that Colapeninsula has provided certainly do so: he has received numerous mentions in the press, has been a team captain/manager in numerous competitions, including the SEA Games, and has been a silver medallist in the Asian Games. The article could do with substantial rewriting, but its subject is notable enough for an article. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:22, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:08, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment. While it's likely that this article will be kept, I have to agree with JW that the nominator has offered a valid rationale for deletion even if it wasn't stated clearly so a few more comments would be helpful. As for his name being in email spam. I've received plenty of spam from "famous people". (that dude in Nigeria who wants help moving his money out of the country isn't one of them) I also have to wonder how common the name "Malik Sulaiman" is in his neck of the woods. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, personal problems with the article subject is not a cause for deletion. J I P  &#124; Talk 18:49, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.