Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mamie Eva Keith (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 22:32, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Mamie Eva Keith
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Individual who was the world's second oldest "verified" person (whatever verified means) is not sufficient for notability. Of the three sources here, the GRG table confirms the details here and makes this a WP:NOPAGE issue, the Bionity citation isn't to a reliable source and is actually pulling from Wikipedia's Oldest people article (and thus circular) and the Chicago Sun Times piece is WP:ROUTINE obituary coverage. Ricky81682 (talk) 09:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  Musa  Talk  10:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  Musa  Talk  10:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete NOPAGE. Most of the article recounts the Keystone-cops confusion over who's oldest that year or whatever. Other than that, utterly pedestrian born-married-worked-died. EEng (talk) 15:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete for lacking the coverage that would satisfy WP:N. Nom just got to this before I did. Canadian   Paul  18:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand Sources provide notability and the article could use some more sources, if the anti-supercentenarian crew isn't satisfied:
 * Guinness Faces Age-old Question (Chicago Tribune, 28 February 1986)
 * At 112, She Claims the Record (Chicago Daily Herald, 1 March 1986)
 * At 113, she may be oldest in world (Chicago Sun-Times, 22 March 1986)
 * Legacy: 113 years of memories (Chicago Daily Herald, 23 September 1986)
 * 930310 (talk) 18:17, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like local coverage given that she lived in Illinois. CommanderLinx (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Mamie Keith now world's oldest? (Salina Journal, 1 March 1986)
 * Woman might own title as most aged person (Bluefield Daily Telegraph, 1 March 1986)
 * Et Cetera (Winnipeg Free Press, 2 March 1986)
 * Mamie Keith (Joplin Globe, 3 March 1986)
 * 113-year-old woman died Sat. (Corbin Times Tribune, 23 September 1986)
 * So she was not only featured locally. 930310 (talk) 19:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You haven't answered the WP:NOPAGE argument i.e. that even accepting (for the sake of argument) that the subject is notable, there's insufficient worthwhile stuff to say about him or her to justify a standalone article, and/or that what little is known about the subject is better presented in the context of a larger article or list. EEng (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and Redirect to an appropriate list. Half of the article is about who she replaced as a "record-holder" and the muddle caused by 'false claimant" to this mythical title. The rest of the article is full of mudane information. Except the questionable information about remembering the news of the Battle of Little Bighorn, which took place when she was 3. WooooHoo, how fascinating. WP:NOPAGE Her DOB and DOD belong in a list. There's nothing here for a stand-alone article. David in DC (talk) 16:56, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect sources may provide substantial coverage, but substantial coverage of trivia does not confer notability. Blackmane (talk) 23:28, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


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