Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchester United's 2008-09 season progress


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. —  Aitias  // discussion 00:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

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Disputed PROD. Original rationale was "Redundant to Manchester United F.C. season 2008-09." I concur, and additioanlly note that we don't need a separate "at-a-glance tally chart" for Man U fans to see what competitions the club could still win..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:19, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as original prodder. – PeeJay 08:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You are just against me. If another person created this article, you people wouldn't proposed it to be deleted. Syjytg (talk) 08:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually I've never encountered you before in my life, don't make assumptions -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not talking about you. Syjytg (talk) 08:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As Camw said, don't take things so personally. I would be requesting this article to be deleted regardless of who created it. Most of your other edits have been contrary to the MOS in some way, which is why they have been reverted. – PeeJay 08:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Then why are you not requesting Manchester United F.C. season 2008-09 to be deleted? It has similiar structure to mine. Syjytg (talk) 08:39, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably because it was already here before you started what amounts to an unnecessary content fork. It's also much larger and more comprehensive, as well as better written..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Edits can be done to this article to make it better. Syjytg (talk) 08:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * In which case it would end up looking exactly the same as Manchester United F.C. season 2008-09, which would make it especially redundant. – PeeJay 08:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If this article is deleted, I will quit Wikipedia because I feel bitten. Syjytg (talk) 08:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That is your prerogative, and it will be our loss, but we're not going to keep an article simply because you're threatening to leave. – PeeJay 08:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't use big word next time. My English is not very good so I won't understand. Anyway, you can choose to delete and I can choose to quit. Syjytg (talk) 08:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. – PeeJay 09:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Redundant and should be deleted per nominators rationale. To the article creator above, please don't take it personally. Camw (talk) 08:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * He deleted and reverted more than 50% of my edits. Obviously he is against me. Syjytg (talk) 08:36, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you see it that way, please Assume Good Faith on his behalf as it seems to me that he is trying to help the encyclopedia, just as you are. If you can take a step back from feeling like you own your contributions and articles, it will be much less stressful and work can be done on moving the encyclopedia forward. Camw (talk) 08:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom - article is redundant. GiantSnowman 09:31, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. - Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 09:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I've left a message on User talk:Syjytg encouraging him/her not to take offense and to keep making good faith edits.- Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 09:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. I'm not against Syjytg, but this article is redundant, it exists as the Man U season article. --Ged UK (talk) 10:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - As we have this, this article is unneccessary. (And I'm not against Sytytg.) DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  10:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per original prod. Is an unnecessary fork from the 2008-09 season article. Syjytg, nobody has anything against you, its just the information shown is already available elsewhere. Eddie6705 (talk) 10:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * delete per nom. As a side note, the original author should be encouraged to assist in the Manchester United F.C. season 2008-09 article.Vulture19 (talk) 13:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - Should we perhaps consider changing this article into a redirect to the pre-existing 2008-09 season article instead of deleting it completely? The only issue that I could think of with regard to that idea is that "Manchester United's 2008-09 season progress" might not be a valid search term. – PeeJay 08:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, it must stay as it is though I hardly comprehend that sentence. Syjytg (talk) 08:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Syjytg, you keep saying that you want the article to stay, but unless you are able to give valid reasons for why it is an important contribution to Wikipedia, and not plainly redundant to the existing article, it all just comes across as WP:ILIKEIT, which is not a valid argument for keeping an article. If the problem is that this is a page you've created for your own pleasure, with content that is primarily interesting to you, may I suggest that you simply copy it (without categories, though) to your own userspace, in a subpage along the lines of User:Syjytg/Manchester United's 2008-09 season progress. Note that you'll have to copy it rather than move it, though. - Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 09:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete redundant page for which the info has an appropriate home at Manchester United F.C. season 2008–09. Peanut4 (talk) 10:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, redundant &mdash; Matt Crypto 12:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Redundant page. Per nom. &mdash; neuro  (talk)  09:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Syjytg, I've offered several friendly words of advice to you in the past, at your talk page. Perhaps you'll take it well from me that this article should be deleted and such a decision has nothing to do with how I feel about you personally. I too hope you don't leave, but if you're going to get so upset about it, sadly, perhaps it's best if you do. --Dweller (talk) 14:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I'm not convinced we even need one season about any single club's individual seasons, but sure as eggs is eggs we don't need two. - fchd (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per original PROD. Also, there may be copyright issues, but I'm not sure if the Premier League's copyright on fixtures extends to results. May be something to check for future reference. Krytenia (talk) 00:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.