Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchester United 2021-22 Current Squad


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  14:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Manchester United 2021-22 Current Squad

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PROD contested with reasoning ''No Wikipedia page is covering appearances as a collective and contract dates. For that reason, it should be allowed to stay.''

Rationale was ''No need for a stand-alone article on the current squad. Manchester United F.C. covers this perfectly well enough. I also don't see this functioning as a redirect.''

As far as I can see, this remains valid. The squad can be updated on 2021–22 Manchester United F.C. season as transfers happen. No need for a separate article covering this. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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I was not allowed to add total current club appearances and goals on the club page. I would be happy to add it in a format agreed by others but such a statistic cannot be found as a collective elsewhere. --Chats90 (talk) 15:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Nehme1499 14:54, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - I think what the article creator was after was 2021–22 Manchester United F.C. season, where this kind of info might feasibly be covered. Separate article entirely inappropriate, and nothing worth merging/redirecting. GiantSnowman 15:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * it is incredibly poor form to simply start a new article to display the information you want, if there is consensus at an existing article not to have that information. Such conduct, if repeated, would be viewed as disruptive and would lead to you being blocked. GiantSnowman 16:21, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

The information has correct citations from the Man Utd website. Wikipedia belongs to everyone, sure you can go ahead get the article deleted. You make up your own rules then threaten bans for anyone that does not conform to your wishes (others as well). Not even once has anyone told, "hey if you want to make a contribution let's figure out how we can add those statistics to a page, all I have been met with is unwarranted criticism and unhelpful comments of how this information is not useful". There would be no need to block me as I officially give up. I don't have time to fight ego wars. I have decided to stay away from Wikipedia altogether. You insist that this format is not allowed yet I find it on pages of hundreds of other clubs. Perhaps I have misunderstood the goal of Wikipedia, either way, it doesn't matter. The only thing that is poor form here is this relentless bullying. I will not be getting involved in this toxic contribution cycle. Thanks for all your hard work and others in the past. --Chats90 (talk) 16:44, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of the info is on the encyclopaedia already but just in different places. For cumulative appearances, we have List of Manchester United F.C. players, List of Manchester United F.C. players (25–99 appearances) and List of Manchester United F.C. players (1–24 appearances) - you are more then welcome to maintain these lists and to help keep them up to date and to add new entries where appropriate. I'm sorry that you feel bullied, this was 100% not my intention. I started this discussion in the hope of gaining consensus. Wikipedia works by consensus. Whilst having a separate article on a squad hasn't been done before, it isn't a case of 'it will never be done' but such an idea would need to gain consensus from the community. This deletion discussion is a place where any editor can come in and make their views clear on the subject. I still, personally, believe that this information is better in the articles that they already in and that having a separate article for a current squad is unnecessary but that's only my opinion. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:29, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete The squad is well documented on multiple other pages, being in a separate article is just duplication of existing content. Which is clearly not needed. Govvy (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete squad list already exists in many other places, the discussion here shows this is just an attempt to circumnavigate the fact that one user wants to add lots more information to those tables, against the recent discussions/consensus at WT:FOOTY. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:15, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Either boldly include the information on the 2021–22 Manchester United F.C. season page, or build a consensus on the talk page. Otherwise, I agree with Joseph2302. --MuZemike 04:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The info was already boldly included at 2021–22 Manchester United F.C. season, but unless I misread the discussion at WT:FOOTY recently, there is a consensus among the WikiProject that tables like this are not appropriate. – PeeJay 19:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Seems a little WP:POINTY to me. – PeeJay 19:29, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per the nominator as we don't need that information for a separate page. HawkAussie (talk) 06:46, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Such Hypocrisy on Display. I added the above on the season's page where it should be like other clubs have but clearly, Wikipedia contribution is a walled garden. As I stated above I do not want to be part of this toxic ego war so go ahead and do what you want.--Chats90 (talk) 15:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Hypocrisy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_Arsenal_F.C._season, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_Inter_Milan_season


 * Delete this is and should be on the per-season page, and not as a separate article. Also, "Current" is a problematic word to have in a title. User:力 (power~enwiki,  π,  ν ) 18:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above.Muur (talk) 20:30, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone above, also ridiculous title, because in 12 months the 2021-22 squad won't be the current squad any more..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)


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