Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchuria national football team


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Interesting topic, though needs reliable sources before it is recreated.  SilkTork  *YES! 19:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Manchuria national football team

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Fails WP:V. Only cited website makes no mention of team Stu.W UK (talk) 22:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Stu.W UK (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep under the proviso that references are found. Undoubtedly these three games were played so there must be mention of it out there somewhere. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely someone needs to look in Chinese and Japanese before we conclude that there are no references. Drawn Some (talk) 22:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In normal circumstamces I would agree with you, however, this seems to have come about, like the Shanghai article, as a result of people from this forum trying to find as many teams as possible and sometimes getting a little overenthusiastic in their endeavours. The same person on the forum also gives results for games between Manchuria and China, which strikes me (and apparently whoever the author who used those results to create this article) as highly unlikely to have happened, which then brings all the results into question. Stu.W UK (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well certainly, if no references can be found, it has to go - but it would be best to make sure. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed, it could turn out be a hoax. No reason not to check first though. Drawn Some (talk) 22:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what you mean now, I'm being a bit dense Stu.W UK (talk) 22:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - non-notable. GiantSnowman 22:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not a hoax; there is reference to Japan playing games in Manchuria at these times:. There is also this football statistics site:. However, the existence of the games isn't enough to make the team notable, so I'd probably side with deletion. Fences and windows (talk) 03:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not notable. John Sloan @ 11:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect Hmmm. This seems to be a sham national team from a fabricated nation. Manchukuo, as I recall, was a puppet of Imperial Japan. "International games" would be a sham. However, we are building a not paper encylopedia, and this information should be somewhere. Best place I can think of would be a section of Manchukuo.  Dloh  cierekim  00:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep -　the article has notability as it illustrates one of a number of failed efforts by Manchukuo to obtain international recognition. I agree that more references should be added, even if only in Japanese or Chinese. --MChew (talk) 15:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable in its own. Significant content in the article (if any) can be merged into the Manchukuo article. --Angelo (talk) 08:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.