Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mandela MarketPlace


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Thanks. I'm generally wary of AfDs with only one editor against another, and unless the nomination clearly proposes a non-deletion action, I'd wait for more opinions. A couple keep endorsements is enough for me in this case. (non-admin closure) Mz7 (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Mandela MarketPlace

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most sources are the organization themself. once source is a nonnotable online mag published by a commercial food company. only one other source mentions them, in passing, where the main subject is the food coop. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm holding officehours with students currently; I'll have more thorough comment up as I can. This is an article coming out of a course that I'm involved in.  I *believe* I have enough sources on file to exceed the GNG for it pretty easily; once I'm done here I will check and get back.  From memory, I think I had ~10 RS's that dedicated significant coverage to it.  If I'm wrong, I'll find an appropriate place to merge the content in to if one exists and take care of it myself, if not, I'll be back here with sources shortly.  The article definitely would benefit from using more secondary sources, but if notability is established independently, that'd be a process for repair (which I'll also work on once instruction ends,) rather than deletion.  Best, Kevin Gorman (talk) 19:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, although I'm not done here yet, taking a quick look at the org's own press file, I think it demonstrates that the org exceeds the level of coverage necessary for the GNG. Not all of the linked articles are RS'es, but a number that include significant coverage are. I'll be back with more indepth analysis of sources later. Kevin Gorman (talk) 19:56, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:40, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I managed to get sick at about the worst time of the year possible for this project. That said, I think that these sources: Organic Connect Magazine, This piece from NBC, this piece from CivilEats, this piece from OaklandNorth which talks about Mandela receiving a national award, this piece from KQED (one of the top five NPR affiliates in the country, as well as a bunch of other coverage they've received demonstrates that the they certainly pass the GNG.  (If I looked back through our local outlets archives, I could probably find at least a few dozen outlets talking about Mandela - they've attracteda lot of attention.) Kevin Gorman (talk) 01:33, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 01:11, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi - I'm not sure a relist is really needed.  I linked a major NPR affiliate's article solely about Mandela, as well as an NBC article about it, several pieces of local coverage, and a link to their press file which contains dozens of reliable sources talking about Mandela. That's way more than enough to pass the gng.  I think this is a pretty clear case of "keep, but the sourcing needs to be improved."  Poor sourcing (where better sourcing is available) is not a reason for deletion.  Once the semester has fully finished I'll add in the extra sourcing myself if my students' haven't, but there's really no way this fails the GNG. Kevin Gorman (talk) 02:00, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above list of sources. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 05:56, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - Meets WP:ORGDEPTH, per the sources posted herein by User:Kevin Gorman. NorthAmerica1000 11:51, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
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