Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mandy Jiroux (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'm surprised but the consensus here is that this individual's coverage meets WP:NBASIC Liz Read! Talk! 23:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Mandy Jiroux
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Nominating for deletion as all but none of these sources are reliable and don't show sustained notability. The sources that do qualify as reliable (The Hollywood Reporter) are about a lawsuit for an un-notable song and Wired source placed emphasis on Miley Cyrus. Trillfendi (talk) 19:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women,  and Arizona. Shellwood (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep but trim. Borderline but appears to barely qualify for notability. Andrevan @ 19:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep I think there is plenty of coverage. Also per WP:BASIC "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability." Zeddedm (talk) 21:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The sources are unreliable though… (AXS link doesn’t work, IMDb not reliable, “livingly.com” not reliable, Refinery29 is a blog, “blogtalkradio.com” not reliable and a dead link, “lifestyle.one” redirects to heatworld which is not reliable, “celebuzz.com” not reliable and also a dead link, J-14 is a gossip magazine for children and the link is dead, jsonline [Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel] simply had her name on a setlist with about 300 or 400 other names, “tapsongz.com” not reliable, “thatdrop.com” not reliable, “housem.nl” not reliable, “powerhouse.nl” link is unresponsive), and even if you take the 3 sources that qualify as notable, you can’t have an article with 3 sources and maybe 4 or 5 sentences (if that) actually about the subject. Trillfendi (talk) 22:45, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Previous AFD resulted in this article becoming a redirect but it seems like there is more support for Keeping it and improving it on the 2nd AFD. More opinions? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect There's plenty of coverage, but I'd want to see more independent secondary sources as per WP:SOURCE Majority of reliable notability that I see comes from Miley Cyrus--Littehammy (talk) 23:01, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Weak Keep - Don't know how much this helps, but Jiroux has some more accomplishments since her first AfD way back in 2008. Her work in choreography and music, such as it is, got some notice from relatively reliable sources (largely because of her Miley connection) as currently cited in the article. There is probably enough for a short stub article here, but fan trivia and social media-dependent sources need to be whacked. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 18:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - In addition to the sources in the article I was able to find some significant coverage this Miley Cyrus autobiography, this discussing their podcast, this one discussing their friendship, this one going into a good bit of depth. Here is a book mention that is independent of Cyrus as well. I did try to search Newspapers.com and there were a lot of trivial mentions, mostly about a dance routine at some awards show and another where she had to release a statement about a fake rumor of Cyrus's death, but as far as newspaper coverage I couldn't find anything. Still, given the sources in the article (and yes I realize that half of them are absolute junk, I'm not including those) with the book references, I do think the article's subject meets the notability guidelines. It's not the strongest claim to notability and I feel like maybe it's borderline with WP:GNG, but it does meet WP:BASIC's criteria: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. Even if the sources aren't the most in-depth pieces, they certainly aren't trivial mentions so WP:BASIC would support keeping this article. - Aoidh (talk) 13:34, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


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