Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mangoo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. czar 00:37, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Mangoo
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Created by a now globally locked sock - Since the last AFD Mangoo has featured on a 2019 song (which is notable) however Mangoo himself isn't, One-bit mentions for "DJ Mangoo" and random results for "Mangoo", Fails MUSIC & GNG, – Davey 2010 Talk 00:20, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not every artist who appears or features on a song is notable themselves, nor do they need an article made for them. There's really not a lot here or to be found on this DJ.  Ss  112   00:22, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:47, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:48, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - insufficient reliable sources of the depth required to begin allowing for the creation of an appropriate and neutral WP:BLP. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:03, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not that notable. Lefcentreright  Talk  (plz ping) 08:06, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just to note, his songs {mainly Eurodancer) were extremely popular in Geometry Dash. (doesn't really matter but I just thought I'd mention it). Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 13:35, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, The last AFD was nominated purely based on him being known for one song (Eurodancer) so good to see he's now known for 2 but I'm still not seeing the notability unfortunately. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:57, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Reading WP:NMUSIC..
 * Comment. Now, I'm not exactly sure about any of this, I'm not really into music or anything but...
 * Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

The ones that I think he could possibly pass are:
 * Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style
 * Would he pass this? Eurodancer was one of the most popular songs of its genre...


 * Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.


 * Well, looking at WP:CHART, looking at recommended charts for Sweden I found "Sverigetopplistan", which shows 1 result for Mangoo: https://www.sverigetopplistan.se/search?query=mangoo (Direct linking to Sverigetopplistan charts is not possible because of Javascript. Instead, one has to insert the artist's or song's name into the search box and click "Sök", this shows all of the artist's albums and singles with their chart positions.) <-- taken directly from WP:CHART and seems to be true. The result shown is "Fanta & Rose", of which it says the following: "3

VECKOR PÅ LISTAN 55 FÖRSTA PLACERING 55 HÖGSTA PLACERING" which translates to 3 weeks on the list, first location 55, highest location 55. I may be completely wrong about all of the above, I really am not sure at all so any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 00:34, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Edit: I have added a bunch more sources including non-English ones. Some of them I have doubts of reliability but others seem to be fine (including charts) but unfortunately almost all are about Play. I did find a few sources for Fanta & Rose though. Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 22:47, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Another edit: Reading WP:BASIC and WP:SIGCOV ;
 * WP:SIGCOV: Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.
 * WP:BASIC: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability
 * Look at most of the sources. The coverage is mainly about Play, but in most of them Mangoo is given slightly more than a passing/trivial mention due to the fact that Play is a remix of Eurodancer, and many of the articles comment on the wishes of Alan Walker and Mangoo, Due to the many sources mentioning this, he may barely just pass WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. That's just my understanding and thinking, I may be completely wrong, please explain to me any mistakes I made. I have not !voted for anything because I would like someone to comment on the research I did. Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 23:03, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yet another edit: I added primary sources (youtube videos (for play)) (not original research) per WP:BASIC ("Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject. ") + genius lyrics for play. Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 21:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Please stop stuffing the article with unnecessary references, especially WP:PRIMARY ones, which you even acknowledge don't contribute anything to the article. So why do it? You added them to the ends of sentences that were already cited. We do not need 10 references at the end of a sentence. That is overkill and I think you're trying to prove some kind of point here. Anyone could've found 10 more unreliable EDM blogs to stuff the article with, including myself. It's not meaningful coverage. Mangoo is not notable as an individual and not really at all outside of two songs, one of which is literally a reimagining of the other. I am going through the article again and removing citations that are redundant and any unreliable ones I find.  Ss  112   21:52, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

I have removed the excessive links to unreliable blogs, primary sources and mere mentions of "Play" from the article. I don't see much that alters what was there before, namely any substantial coverage of Mangoo as an individual; most centre around either "Eurodancer" or "Play" (which is a reimagining of "Play").  Ss  112   22:09, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


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