Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manifest (convention)


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The result was redirect to List of anime conventions. Black Kite (talk) 14:22, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Note: The result was overturned to no consensus with the closer's agreement per this deletion review.— S Marshall T/C 20:02, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Manifest (convention)

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The topic is a defunct anime convention. All sources on the article are primary or user-generated. The topic lacks reliable secondary sources, failing WP:GNG. No reliable sources have been added since a template requesting additional citations for verification was added in October 2008. Cjhard (talk) 09:21, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. Have a look at List of anime conventions and thence the listed articles references.  The referencing here seems to be the accepted type of referencing for this whole cohort of articles, admittedly though this article is one of the weakest, but none the less is the same general type of referencing for many of these articles.  Perhaps telling though this article is not (yet) listed in List of anime conventions.  Aoziwe (talk) 11:13, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It is listed there under List of anime conventions. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry - missed it - thanks. Aoziwe (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - All submissions are checked and verified against the convention's website at animecons.com so it has been deemed a reliable site. This being said I have to agree with the article lacks enough reliable secondary sources which would make it fail WP:EVENT. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write)   )evidence(  13:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "On a weekend, late in August, something special happens in Melbourne. People who you would see travelling to and from work during the week, dressed like any other person, change. They put on different clothes, change their hair colour, wear makeup. They tranform themselves into as close an approximation of their favourite anime (and, more recently, popular culture) characters. Then they head to the Showgrounds. For one weekend, they get to be someone else. For over ten years now, the Melbourne Anime Festival, more commonly known as Manifest, has been bringing them together, offering them somewhere to meet others and express themselves. Manifest has the clear distinction of being Australia’s first true anime convention. It began in 2000, a one-and-a-half day event in the Old Arts Building at Melbourne University. Evolving from a series of screenings marathons run by local anime clubs, the first Manifest attracted a few hundred people. The following year a few hundred more showed up to the same place for a full two days. That year even saw traders for the first time, crunched together in a narrow corridor at the southern end of Old Arts. From there, Manifest has grown and grown. First to a second building at the university (Economics & Commerce), then a third (originally Wilson Hall, later the Union building) and then, in 2009, to the Melbourne Showgrounds. Each year, the committee looked on incredulously as more and more people showed up. From a few hundred in 2000, to well over ten thousand a decade later." According to its staff pageWebCite, Rocket Chainsaw has editorial oversight.  The article notes: "This weekend at the Melbourne Anime Festival, Madman Entertainment and Gonzo gave Australia something really special--a preview screening of Last Exile -Fam, The Silver Wing-. We were shuffled in sans bags and recording devices (bagged and sealed like sandwiches) and Madman's anime product manager Sylvester Ip took the stage. He welcomed us to the screening and apologised for the privacy restrictions, pointing out that Madman plans to simulcast the series in October when it starts airing in Japan. ... The convention scene in Australia has gradually moved away from anime screenings as a core event over many years, as downloading fansubs became easier and the length of time between Japanese and English-language DVD releases shortened. At Manifest's encore screening of Last Exile, though, there's still a full theatre of fans waiting for the rare opportunity to be the first to see a new episode, even after the inconvenience of surrendering their phones and cameras at the door. Despite the delays to the start of the screening (by 15, 30 or 45 minutes depending on which version of Manifest's mercurial schedule you're following) there's little sense of impatience among the crowd. They're still enthusiastic enough to cheer wildly at Sly Ip's command. Even further delays due to technical problems lead to excited rather than mutinous rumbles. When the ending credits roll, the audience applauds, a response I haven't seen at a Manifest screening since the Evangelion movies in 2002."  The article notes: "This was my first time at the Amaranth Cosplay Ball, a dinner and costume event which is held annually on the Thursday before Manifest (the Melbourne Anime Festival, reportedly one of Australia's largest and longest running anime and popular culture conventions). ... Manifest is said to be Australia's first cosplay convention, starting as an anime screening and barbecue between several Melbourne anime clubs in 1998/99. In 2000 Manifest Inc was formed and the Manifest convention was born. ... The most (in)famous yaoi panel hosted in the Australian cosplay community is the 2007 Manifest panel which resulted in the banning of the panellists from future Manifest conventions for a period of five years. The ban was placed after the body responsible for organising Manifest received complaints that inappropriate adult themed material had been screened during the panel. Many convention participants applauded the ban of the two panellists. However there was also a backlash from cosplayers who stated that Manifest needed to show more responsibility:"  The article notes: "One of the first cosplay conventions was held in the Australian Centre for Independent Gaming, Melbourne, in 2000, with the beginnings of the now annual Manifest (Melbourne Anime Festival) convention. ... Events such as Manifest provide cosplayers with official occasions to perform, however, for many, much of the time spent being a cosplayer is as much about not being one and preparing or adapting everyday clothing to incorporate elements of cosplay. ..." <li> The article notes: "During my visits to Manifest 2011, the EB Expo and various launch parties this year, I've managed to amass a small gallery of talented role performers, proudly donning the garb of their favorite video game heroes and heroines. As one who has dabbled in the art of cosplay myself, I can appreciate the effort that goes into making these costumes. If any Nintendo-related cosplayers wish to send me their photos (my email is in the staff page below) I'll happily feature them in a future gallery. Likewise, if you see me at any future video game and/or anime conventions or events, feel free to come say hi."</li> <li> The article notes: "The other week I attended Manifest 2013, otherwise known as the Melbourne Anime Festival. To keep up with annual tradition, I scoured the event in search of any Nintendo-related cosplayers to photograph. This year I snapped up pics of Zelda enthusiasts, a trio of sexy Kongs, a parade of Pokémon peeps (including Giovanni and his personal Rocket posse!), enough Phoenix Wright cast members to fill a courtroom, and many more! If you're one of the cosplayers I got to photograph, give yourself a pat on the back for the amazing work. Sorry to anyone I missed!"</li> <li> The article notes: "After the launch of the game, we headed across to the Melbourne Showgrounds. It's become somewhat of a tradition of mine to go to Manifest and make a Nintendo-themed cosplay gallery for NWR, after all. I had planned to write up a special edition Mariobilia feature about the overwhelming amount of Mario, Kirby and Pokémon merchandise that's usually on sale at Manifest, but sadly this year there wasn't anything particularly noteworthy. A few stalls had the Zero Suit Samus figure I spoke about a few weeks ago, and with the post-release prices I saw, I'm sure glad I pre-ordered mine."</li> <li> The article notes: "One of the first cosplay conventions was held at the Australian Centre for Independent Gaming, Melbourne, in 2000, with the beginnings of the now annual Manifest (Melbourne Anime Festival) convention."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Manifest to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 05:31, 26 August 2017 (UTC) </li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:33, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


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