Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manifest Density


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:29, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Manifest Density

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May not meet notability guidelines for music. Okamialvis (talk) 17:51, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The six first Adolecents album have a wiki page, included their 2013 album. Why should the 2014 and 2016 albums not have one? JPGR69 18:11, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Firstly, things do not "have a wiki page"; this is an encyclopedia, and these are encyclopedia articles. There are standards for what articles Wikipedia should and should not include, the most basic of which is Notability. For albums, the specific standard is Notability (music). At minimum, the album needs to have been the subject of coverage in multiple non-trivial published works appearing in reliable secondary sources (note that discogs.com is itself a wiki; its content is user-created, therefore it is not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards). That an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article. Secondly, "these other articles exist, so this one should too" is not a compelling argument for inclusion. If the most coverage you can gather together to launch an album article is an infobox and track listing, it is probably not a great idea to create the article as it will very likely end up being nominated for deletion (as in this example).
 * All that being said, I've been working on the various Adolescents (band)-related articles for several months and have managed to substantially improve the articles about their albums released between 1981 and 2005, some of which were just stubs when I started working on them. However, I stalled out a bit while working on The Fastest Kid Alive. It seems that after the excitement surrounding the band's reunion and OC Confidential wore down, coverage of their activities in reliable secondary sources became scarcer. I haven't been able to find much in the way of substantial coverage of their albums since they moved over to Concrete Jungle Records, which is based in Germany; coverage of the band in U.S.-based sources seems to have lessened quite a bit since then, although the band has remained active, releasing 4 albums in the past 5 years and consistently touring, at least in California where I've seen them perform several times in recent years. However, I do know that their activities have been covered a bit in several southern California publications such as newspapers and area music magazines; I've read some articles in recent years about singer Tony Reflex's activities and the inspirations for his lyrics on the last few Adolescents records. So I'm fairly confident that, in time, I can meet my goal to improve the articles on the Adolescents' most recent albums at least past stub class, hopefully to C or B class at least. It would be just as easy to start from scratch, though, which is how I planned to go about it (starting in userspace), so I have no objection to stubs being deleted in the meantime. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:17, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - I found a passing mention of the album in relation to a specific song, but not enough to expand on this stub. just wanted to say I applaud your rationale, it truly is one of the best comments I have read at an Afd in awhile.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:33, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:41, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Not enough under WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:12, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.