Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manipal bug


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. NW ( Talk ) 03:21, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Manipal bug

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This bug appears to exist; see this article from The Manipal Journal (which appears to be an unreliable source). It has been tagged as a hoax since September 20, 2009 by. Since there is some valid disagreement over whether or not this should be included in the encyclopedia, i.e. Verifiability concerns, I have nominated this article for deletion. It was mentioned on the talk page that there could be sources in a language native to Manipal, India, so I will withdraw this AfD if sources are found. Cunard (talk) 06:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Here's the discussion on the talk page:

No references except one blog, no scientific description. The image of swellings, the only image directly related to this insect, was not related (http://www.flickr.com/photos/docfiles/95240312/, besides it was a copyright violation). With the precautions described in the article it must be a serious problem in that region and it is not likely that there is no other reference or scientific description. --Martin H. (talk) 11:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hoax

The Manipal Journal is not a blog. It is an English language news website affiliated with the local college. People in Karnataka speak Kannada, not English. The refs on this bug will probably not be in English, for the most part. Maybe you did not read the comments on the article--the bug clearly is a problem in Manipal, but there is no reason to assume that people outside Manipal are aware of it. S. M. Sullivan (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Cunard (talk) 06:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete ...and then redirect, as I previously did with this edit. The M. Journal does not appear to be an RS, and there is no independent coverage, so I think a redirect is the most appropriate. Current content is non-encyclopaedic and lacks independent sources for verification.  Chzz  ►  17:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment The term "Manipal bug" is apparently only used in Manipal, a city in the Karnataka region of India. However, I am convinced that this is not a hoax.  The phenomenon is undoubtedly real, see this review -- Manipal is not mentioned but the author is from Karnataka.  I have also found the term "Manipal bug" in blog posting that don't seem likely to be faked.  Since the term is only locally used, I don't have a strong opinion on whether we should have a Wikipedia article, but I do have a strong opinion that this is not just a hoax. Looie496 (talk) 17:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Apparently yes there is something that bites or produces blisters by contact. But this is largely WP:ONESOURCE. The source attributes the discovery to Kasturba Medical College but the college doesn't maintain a website which could verify it. A search on the Times of India website (which has an edition from the neighbouring Mangalore city) does not throw any results. May not be a hoax but verifiability is paramount. --Deepak D'Souza 19:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Userify or Delete. All we have is a single, borderline reliable, news article on this insect/phenomenon. The Manipal Journal website is perhaps reliable for local news, but is not a suitable source for entomology. However since this is not an on-wiki hoax and there is a possibility that other sources may be found or written on the subject, it may be best to userify it and wait to see if the claimed research at Kasturba Medical College is published. I'll ask User:Shashaanktulsyan if he is interested. Abecedare (talk) 00:06, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if this isn't a hoax, we can hardly infer from a scientifically looking article that doesn't use this name that this thing could possibly exists even if under a name used only in one town in India. Looie produced some fancy footwork, but it's too fancy and produces too little result for inclusion in Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Looie496 has linked to a source that even gives the name of the insect causing the dermatitis: Paederus melampus. The source article was published in the Indian Journal of Dermatology, Venereology and Leprology, Jan Feb 2007, by Gurcharan Singh and Syed Yousuf Ali of the Sri Devaraj Urs Medical College in Karnataka; it should be added to the wikipedia article as a ref.S. M. Sullivan (talk) 05:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Cases of blisters caused by Manipal bug are very famous in Manipal. There have been cases where victim's face has been badly spoiled(because of consecutive encounters) (no citation available). No one is sure how the bug looks. This article was created to provide whatever information is available on this bug. But this article wasn't given much thought (by me) while creation. I left it so in hope that it would be improved by some person (maybe from Manipal) as he stumbles on this topic. According to me, since this article doesn't meet the standards it should be marked so, but shouldn't be deleted as it provides a few starting points for knowing more about Manipal Bug and may be improved as more information is available. (talk) 15:43, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I think it has been established that Manipal bug is no hoax, so I will remove the hoax tag.S. M. Sullivan (talk) 06:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - insufficient reliable sources to verify that this exists. The Indian Journal of Dermatology article linked above is about the Paederus genus, but contains no mention of the phrase 'Manipal bug' (or any mention of Manipal), so doesn't seem relevant here. Robofish (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete We already have an article Paederus dermatitis and there is nothing in this one worth using, and no reason for a redirect, as there isnt any real   evidence it's specific to Manipal. That article needs editing, as the sources cited do not specify Manipal--the unnverified material here seems to have been added there also. Am I really the first person in this discussion to have found that Wikipedia article?    DGG ( talk ) 02:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The entire article is hinched on a single source. Would have !voted keep if one more independent reference is available. Salih  ( talk ) 08:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Paederus dermatitis, where various blister beetles are discussed, including the Manipal bug (Paederus dermatitis is a new article, created on 9/25, so most of the !voters here couldn't have seen it - reason for extending the discussion perhaps?). Priyanath talk 17:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
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