Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manizeh Zainli


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) WJ94 (talk) 12:41, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Manizeh Zainli

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Fails to meet WP:BIO and WP:GNG, the references are unreliable and primary, selection and removal stories of PFF secretary would not make her notable. 17 refs, describing same story and interview, no other noteworthy importance in reliable sources. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, Sports,  and Pakistan. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:18, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment What could contribute to her notability is "She is also the first female official of any football federation in South Asian countries". Robby.is.on (talk) 19:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep passes GNG with sources on page.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:28, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable article. 111.119.188.13 (talk) 07:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per above. Besides the many sources already in the article, I found 18 and 19 among many many more sources. There are also definitely many sources in Urdu (the Pakistan national official language). Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 07:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Das osmnezz, The references you mentioned were already there except for YouTube (unreliable). A topic does not need many many more sources to make it noteworthy, rather than significant coverage in reliable and secondary references. First female official of any football federation doesn't make her notable if we look into the WP:BIO1E. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 09:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The YouTube one was broadcast/published by PTV Sports which looks like a reliable source. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 14:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep - muddled nomination - doesn't really address in specific terms what's supposed to be wrong with the copious sourcing in the article. No evidence of WP:BEFORE. The PROD which was even more ridiculous said "selection of PFF secretary would not make her notable" (?) Well maybe she wouldn't be notable if she hadn't attained her office, but so what? We'll never know. Maybe David Beckham wouldn't be notable if he'd been no good at football, or New York city if they'd built it somewhere else! Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 14:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bring back Daz Sampson, Copious sourcing isn't the justification of notability. Selection of PFF secretary (PFF secretary isn't public office too), give me any refs other than this statement (as refs only emphasizing and covering this news only) which are giving her significant coverage in reliable sources. M.Ashraf333 (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources which show notability. GiantSnowman 21:23, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - has in-depth coverage from multiple RS such as Dawn and The News International. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


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