Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manna (drone delivery company)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 04:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Manna (drone delivery company)

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Approved at AfC and moved to mainspace. A small start up that hasn't done anything (yet) other than R&D and receiving funding. Has sources but none are mainstream, the ones with non promotional content basically repeat the same information. Some sources are decidedly dubious. The company has a novel idea but for Wikipedia an article is simply too soon. Let the community decide. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:42, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * At least 1 mainstream source (The Irish Times) has written about the company. As a note to anyone else looking for information on this company, Manna (www.manna.aero) the Ireland/Wales based drone delivery startup is not to be confused with MANNA (mannarobotics.ai) the San Francisco/Oklahoma based drone delivery startup 2.
 * And that is only about a paltry 3mio seed fund. If Wikipedia were to have an article about every minor start up or novel idea there would be another million articles in it. One source to the Irish Times does not notability make, however reliable the publication is. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd disagree and say $5.2 million for a seed is not small. Also it can be seen in action here --Coolmandan (talk) 16:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:16, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:16, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment: As the AfC reviewer that accepted the draft, I am starting to think I made the wrong call on this one. According to the Companies Registration Office the company was only registered on 11 April 2019? would you like to comment? Also the number of 'according to's in the Irish Times article could indicate it is based on a press release. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:28, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Unsure on how it was registered but it is also found registered in the US here in July of 2019. I think since it is a start-up, it may have had discussions, formalities or changes, unsure - I could update the article page to reflect these finds? Manna is mentioned in Forbes and featured in the 100 hot start ups. I think in terms of having an article on Wikipedia then it is useful since there is a growing number of articles, interviews and mentions of the company; as well as partnerships of flipdish. --Coolmandan (talk) 12:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

, : Hey There has been no more discussion on this matter and has been a week since opened. There was this article recently outlining more of the companies plans. --Coolmandan (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a platform  for  listing  every minor start up, whether they have  a fleeting  mention in Forbes or not. Not wishing  to  canvass here, but  let's let  our top notability expert chime in: pinging . Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 04:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Normally in a situation like this I would simply say return to draft space. But I really don't see how there is likely to be context for an article until they become at least minimally notable . The policy here is NOT DIRECTORY.
 * But even more imprtant than the fate of this draft article is our policy on conflict of interest., as this is the only article you havewritten,and it's not usual for someoneto have a merely generla interes in a very new company, itis reasonable to ask you whether you have any confliction of interest as we define it in WP:COI, and, if relevant, whether you have been paid directlyt or indirectly or as part of the job duties to write this article?  DGG ( talk ) 04:37, 8 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I have to agree DGG and Kudpung. The only real results I can see on Google are for TechCrunch and a few other publications who write about startups, as well as their own company website (which actually didn’t hit the top entry for me!) It’s not clear that they notable enough at the current time. I think for now best to delete, later it may become notable. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 06:15, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:21, 8 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. althought the company received a big fund to start the company but this is not the notability guidelines in Wikipedia. Subject fails WP:NCORP. Would suggest to delete instead of draftify as for a company to pass the notability would take many years to gain WP:SIGCOV of WP:RS and WP:IS sources coverage. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:31, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Fits WP:TOOSOON. Back to draft only if reasonable COI concerns raised are dismissed. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 07:42, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Fits WP:TOOSOON. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:12, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and other contributors. A relatively new, small and non-notable company that hasn't "done" anything yet. Other than receive some funding. And to get the press release on that funding round "printed" in a few places. WP:NCORP and WP:GNG is not met. Guliolopez (talk) 09:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, can't argue against that. Thanks all for explaining. --Coolmandan (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG and WP:COMPANY. Creator of the article is a WP:SPA and might be associated with the said company. Furthermore, the AfC reviewer really made a wrong call accepting this one.  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 00:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per xargs.  scope_creep Talk  02:40, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Not xargs. Must have been sleeping. Fails WP:NCORP. Asserts on the policy like a glove.  scope_creep Talk  17:14, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NCORP userdude 03:28, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Utterly fails the criteria for establishing notability NCORP/GNG.  HighKing++ 12:40, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - a start-up whose only notability is connection to a new invention. FWIW, my father's parents were born in Ireland and Wales, respectively. Bearian (talk) 02:05, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


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