Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manshu Musume


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. czar ⨹   16:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Manshu Musume

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Delete. Article has translation of the song lyrics and fails WP:NOTLYRICS.  Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk)  07:01, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NOTLYRICS is not the biggest problem here: just remove the lyrics part to solve it. Mentioned only here and not having its own jawp article (only redlink mentioned at ja:服部富子), this song not notable enough for an article.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 15:38, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Of course the article has to be expanded, but the current state of the article cannot be the reason for deletion if there is potential for making it a substantial article (WP:NRVE). This song was a big hit at the time, and it is included in a number of publications discussing prewar popular music:, , , , etc. It is also now notorious enough that it is the subject of scholarly study. For instance, Michael Bourdaghs of the Univ. of Chicago discusses it in his article in Sino-Japanese Transculturation: . Michitaro (talk) 04:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not convinced that this song has garnered enough in-depth coverage (more than just being listed in collections of old songs) to justify a self-standing article like this. --DAJF (talk) 14:06, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The sources I cited are not lists, but books. CiNii is listing the table of contents, so this is proof that the song is being treated in an entire chapter or section. I will head out to the library to get some of these sources. Michitaro (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr. Guye (talk) 03:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looking at the sources Michitaro found, it seems clear that this song has attracted modern scholarly attention. A Google Books search also found a number of references to the song, suggesting that it made quite a cultural impact in its day. --Cckerberos (talk) 10:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Michitaro. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:16, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * , any thoughts on Michitaro's sources? czar ⨹   13:25, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Change to keep with good finds by Michitaro above. Although I do not have access to the full text, they appear reliable as they are stocked at multiple university libraries. Looking forward to the cites being incorporated.  野狼院ひさし  u/t/c 14:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.